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by musicfreak » Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:35 pm

Hello,

no haven't had that effect.

CD-Player would not help, as it only records the audio coming from the CD Player. You need the StereoMix or if available the WAVE Mix.

Cu
Markus

Markus thanks

by webrider » Sun Oct 24, 2004 5:46 am

Hi Markus,

thanks for your help. I also switched over now to 192 kBits, also Lowlander told me the same. I think it works quite good. In the window of Tune Bite where to select "STEREO MIX", there are also this possibilities more: AUX, TV-Empfänger (Audio), CD-Player, LINE IN. Till now I'm using STEREO MIX. I'll take care not to get other noises in. Could be CD-Player a better solution, altough I'm using stored files to change them to mp3? But in gerneral TUNE BITE works quite good. Only sometimes I have the feeling that some music-files have after decoding to mp3 a little bit more "Hall" (in german), did you also had sometimes this feeling?

Tschau

webrider

by musicfreak » Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:40 pm

Hi guys,

ok here some answers to your questions:

Tunebite is only available in an English version. I didn't find any settings to change the language.

Well 256 kbit is a little bit too much. In earlier days i used 128 kbit. As my portable device has lots of free space and i want to digitally import all my music cd (about 1500 - all bought no copies - just if someone reading thinks i have only ripped cds - no i have a fortune in my basement.) i switched to 192 kbit. So i should have fun with the music in the future.

I have no idea which other input options are displayed, but i can tell you this. The stereo mix is a mixed signal all of all sound playing. So while recording if there is any "beep" on your computer it will be recorded in the MP3 file.
You could try the Wave input - BUT - that does not remove the "beep" completely as error sounds are also played via the wave channel. YOu can only get rid of line in, mic and other sounds by selecting the wave output.

And sorry i can't help you with the freedb problem. I use Musicmatch - bought a lifetime version years ago - and they have a perfect tagging feature and also the tagging of ripped music cds is working more than perfect. About 99,9% of my bought music cds are fully and correctly recognized!

Ok, thats for now.

Markus

by Lowlander » Fri Oct 22, 2004 3:49 pm

The bitrate you should depends on several factors:

Free disc space for music. The less space you have, the lower the bitrate you should choose.

Quality you need. If you listen music over low-end devices 128k should be enough. The better the speakers and sound system the higher the bitrate you should choose.

Your level of being audiophile. Get the same song at several bitrates and listen at which lowest level it still sounds good for you. You might want to also check with different types of music.


My personal choice is 192k as it gives pretty good sound even over large stereo systems at manageble filesizes (for me).


I hope this helped, and good night!

Hi Lowlander

by webrider » Fri Oct 22, 2004 3:41 pm

Lowlander, thanks for your advise. I'll try what you wrote me. I'll fill in in freedb you told me.
Also the length of my files of mp3 I'll check, if 128 kBit should be better. I'dont think that the system is picking up other noises. Because I switched off the micro, and other progs at the same time producing noises are not running at the same time.

Just tommorrow morning I'll try everthing, because today it's too late.

Thanks an till tomorrow.

webrider.

by Lowlander » Fri Oct 22, 2004 2:54 pm

The Realtec AC97 is your soundcard. You probably have one integrated on your motherboard.

As for 256k bitrate, it sounds about right that you should get 10mb files. This of course all depends on the length of the song. That you get only 3mb files with MM sounds weird. That's more like 128k songs that get 3mb files. Again it all depends on the song length.
Anyway its not unlikely that TuneBite will give you bigger filesizes as it will also pick up noise, etc. and save that to the file.

Did you check your freeDB setting to see if you made spelling mistake?


PS my 192k files are between 4 and 6mb normally as a reference.

tunebite

by webrider » Fri Oct 22, 2004 2:46 pm

Hi Markus.
I installed now tunebite and also Lame. It works best. Only one question. Which input did you choose in Options? - Stereo Mix? Or should I choose annother one? Its shown Realtec AC 97 Audio. then I chosed also 256 kBit Rate. But now the files are in mp3 more than 10 MB big. Should I choose annother kBit? But normally with MM I'am choosing mp3 and 256 kBit and the files are only 3 MB big. Enocer Mode I choosed "Stereo" It's ok?

Thanks and Regards

webrider

by Lowlander » Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:49 pm

Some thoughts on FreeDB:

Is there a chance that a firewall on your PC is blocking access?

Do the default settings work?
  • Server Name: freedb.freedb.org
    User Name: anonymous
    User domain: some.domain
Have you checked the spelling of the server name? You posted that you changed the server to: freedb.freed.de. This should probably be: freedb.freedb.de.

FreeDB official mirror sites: http://www.freedb.org/modules.php?name= ... le&artid=9


At developers, could this be a problem:
New server software 1.5.1PL2 fixes a citical bug

Posted by joerg on Sunday, October 17 @ 21:14:44 UTC (41 reads)

Today we released cddbd 1.5.1PL2, which fixes a critical bug which would break transmissions to mirror servers. You can download the bugfix release from SourceForge or the Download/Server software section.
From freeDB.org

problem with freedb - Markus could you help also here?

by webrider » Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:36 pm

Hi Markus. In my first thread above in the second column I asked also if Lowlander can help me with my Problem of freedb. It doesn't work at my PC. Would it be possible for you to read my problems and try to help me, because Lowlander told me that he cannot help me in this freedb problem.
Perhaps you can tell me, how to fill in the windows to get the CD-Infos from freedb. I'm using W2KProf.

Till later

webrider

by Lowlander » Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:04 am

This type of program has been discussed on MM before. It records all sounds from the soundcard. Its a great way to get around copyright protection as well is record from other sources onto your PC.

As for the forum error you get with PM, don't worry, your message did get send anyway. And this post on the forum might actually help other people (well those that understand German anyway, hehe). Does TuneBite itself come in an English version?

Now you just got to sit patiently and make no sound and hope windows doesn't either, lol.

Hi Markus

by webrider » Fri Oct 22, 2004 5:29 am

Markus, vielen Dank für Deine Hilfe. jetzt sehe ich schon klarer. Wie ich in den nächsten Tagen die Software freigegeben bekomme, probiere ich es aus. Nehme an du schaust ab und zu ins forum. Wenn ich dannn noch Fragen habe, melde ich mich. Aber erstmal besten Dank.
Bist du schon länger mit MM unterwegs? Bis jetzt finde ich das Tool prima.

Grüße

Webrider

by musicfreak » Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:26 am

OK, as i allwas get a from() error while posting a PM here is the message to you in German:

Hi,

also Du brauchst den Windows Media Player, Lame, Tunebite und zuguter letzt Mediamonkey.

Installiere Tunebite. Es klemmt sich dann in die Taskleiste ganz rechts bei den Icons. (ist ein roter Kreis).

Als Standard unterstützt Tunebite OGG Dateien. Wenn Du Dir unter http://mitiok.free.fr/ die Lame Dateien holst und sie in Tunebite aktivierst (geht in den Optionen), dann macht er auch MP3 Dateien.

Ich hatte am Anfang Probleme, da ich eine spezielle Soundkarte für Musikstudios verwende und Tunebite die wohl nur bedingt unterstützt, aber nun nach ein paar Tests geht es ohne Probleme.

Es gibt den Automodus (verwende ich) und den manuellen Modus. Im Automodus erkennt Tunebite automatisch, wenn geschützte Titel aufgenommen werden und rerecorded sie als MP3 Datei. Die Tags des WMA Tracks werden automatisch in die MP3 Tags übernommen.

Wenn Du jetzt im Mediaplayer die gekauften Titel abspielst findest Du im Ordner der bei Tunebite als Speicherort angegeben ist die fertigen MP3 Dateien. Diese einfach zu den restlichen MP3 Dateien verschieben und fertig.

Es wird kein Kopierschutz umgangen oder so mit Tunebite, sonder es nimmt einfach die Audiosignale die Du hörst gleich wieder vollautomatisch auf.

Kleiner Tipp: Wärend des Aufnehmens solltest Du keine anderen Sounds wiedergeben, da diese - je nach Einstellungen der Soundkarte - sonst mit in das MP3 File wandern. Aber man kann die gekauften Songs ja mehrfach aufnehmen, wenn mal was schief läuft.

Die Methode brennen und rerecoden war mir einfach zu umständlich. So kann ich jetzt nach Lust und Laune bei Musicload einkaufen gehen und kann trotzdem die Musik hören wo ich will. Schließlich geht es mir nicht um den illegalen Tausch, sondern um die Freiheit meine Musik zu genießen wo ICH will und nicht wo die Software meint. Außerdem will ich mir keine Geräte vorschreiben lassen, die WMA DRM unterstützen. Die können alle nicht das leisten was mein IAUDIO kann.

Gruß
Markus

Hi Markus

by webrider » Thu Oct 21, 2004 2:15 pm

Makus thanks again for your help.

I ordered today the prog you told me. By the way, are you german? If yes, could you explain me in german a little bit more this program how to do, to get my downloades songs into MM that also MM can play them. Thanks in advance. How to install lame?

webrider

Hi Markus

by webrider » Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:19 am

Thanks for this help. I'll try it the next days. Would be fine if works.
webrider

by Guest » Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:22 pm

Hi,

i had the same problem with musicload.de.

I bought my first song months ago to thes possible software to free the bought music and to convert it to an ordinary mp3 file.

2 weeks ago i came across www.tunebite.com

This software costs 9,95 Euros and waits in the taskbar for WMA music with DRM played. It automatically rerecords the played file. (You just have to install the lame MP3 encoder).

It also sets the ID tags correct from the WMA file.

Now i can go shopping with musicload and use the files with my portable mp3 player not supporting DRM.

Give it a try - tunebite solved all my problems and i have them now organized with Mediamonkey.

Greetings
Markus

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