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Re: Do you use Media Monkey? Why?

by sallenmd87 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:13 pm

yarguy wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:35 am
Bandcamp charges exactly the same for FLAC as for MP3.
Not much there that really interests me, to be honest. I tend to be a little more mainstream in my purchasing tastes and stream the stuff from artists that I've never heard of. Also, I buy a fair amount of classical music, and they definitely charge a premium for lossless.

Re: Do you use Media Monkey? Why?

by sallenmd87 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:07 pm

dtsig wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:00 pm
yarguy wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:35 am
And I have to admit that i really can't tell the difference between 320 mp3 and a flac file when playing ... especially in a car.
Objective, double-blind studies have shown that many "audiophiles" can't either. Expectations color perception.

Re: Do you use Media Monkey? Why?

by dtsig » Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:00 pm

yarguy wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:35 am

Unfortunately, though, you are right that the public has come to accept low quality if they can get it cheaper (even better if it is free, hence streaming with ads). But for too many people music is just Muzak anyway so quality doesn't matter.
I think that is a bit rough. I perfer mp3 simply because I started with mp3 before lossless formats started to become popular. And I have to admit that i really can't tell the difference between 320 mp3 and a flac file when playing ... especially in a car.

Re: Do you use Media Monkey? Why?

by yarguy » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:35 am

sallenmd87 wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:45 am


Among audiophiles, yes. Not so sure about the other 95+% of people. So long as lossless formats are sold at a much higher price that $1.29 per track, which is usually the case, the majority will not buy them. They have come to accept MP3 and AAC. The future of digital audio is streaming anyway.
Bandcamp charges exactly the same for FLAC as for MP3.

Unfortunately, though, you are right that the public has come to accept low quality if they can get it cheaper (even better if it is free, hence streaming with ads). But for too many people music is just Muzak anyway so quality doesn't matter.

Re: Do you use Media Monkey? Why?

by Peke » Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:43 pm

sallenmd87 wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:45 am
yarguy wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:58 pm
The future of digital audio is not in lossy formats like MP3.
Among audiophiles, yes. Not so sure about the other 95+% of people. So long as lossless formats are sold at a much higher price that $1.29 per track, which is usually the case, the majority will not buy them. They have come to accept MP3 and AAC. The future of digital audio is streaming anyway.
1. Many many more people find about lossless, especially as FLAC is finally supported in Apple devices and BT Audio support much higher quality (AptX mode)
2. Regarding Streaming I agree 100%.

Re: Do you use Media Monkey? Why?

by sallenmd87 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:45 am

yarguy wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:58 pm
The future of digital audio is not in lossy formats like MP3.
Among audiophiles, yes. Not so sure about the other 95+% of people. So long as lossless formats are sold at a much higher price that $1.29 per track, which is usually the case, the majority will not buy them. They have come to accept MP3 and AAC. The future of digital audio is streaming anyway.

Re: Do you use Media Monkey? Why?

by sallenmd87 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:38 am

I switched to it because iTunes chokes on large libraries. I have 250,000 tracks. I've been collecting CDs for 35 years.

Re: Do you use Media Monkey? Why?

by sallenmd87 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:36 am

yarguy wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:58 pm
(yes it will upload your FLAC file but it will then change it to MP3).
I assume you are referring to Google Play, because MediaMonkey certainly supports and plays FLAC. I have quite a few of them, to I mostly ripped to ALAC for compatibility with Apple devices.

Re: Do you use Media Monkey? Why?

by MagGyver » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:18 pm

I have never gotten MM to transfer a playlist directly into Traktor by dragging and dropping, so for me the iTunes script is the workaround. Been using that for 3 years now.
HillmanMinx wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:16 pm
Re. Traktor.
Am I right in thinking from what I've read in the thread that it is possible to drag and drop playlists from MM straight into Traktor without using the itunes imitation script at all? (which is beyond my computer competency anyway!).
Would be good news for me. :D

Re: Do you use Media Monkey? Why?

by MagGyver » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:17 pm

The updated version of the script is provided in a link on page 9 of the thread about that script, and it is working perfectly for me, both when I was on Traktor 2.X and now that I'm on 3.0. Please try that version instead of the one linked on the first page.
HillmanMinx wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:47 pm
Hi,
the script I've read so much about that enables me to share with Traktor DJ is broken/no longer exists.
Have itunes destroyed it deliberately?
Is there an alternative?
Just starting with DJing - this has stopped my progress dead!
All help appreciated.

Re: Do you use Media Monkey? Why?

by HillmanMinx » Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:16 pm

Re. Traktor.
Am I right in thinking from what I've read in the thread that it is possible to drag and drop playlists from MM straight into Traktor without using the itunes imitation script at all? (which is beyond my computer competency anyway!).
Would be good news for me. :D

Re: Do you use Media Monkey? Why?

by HillmanMinx » Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:47 pm

Hi,
the script I've read so much about that enables me to share with Traktor DJ is broken/no longer exists.
Have itunes destroyed it deliberately?
Is there an alternative?
Just starting with DJing - this has stopped my progress dead!
All help appreciated.

Re: Do you use Media Monkey? Why?

by MagGyver » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:48 pm

I've been a MM Gold user since 2005, after scouring everywhere for a suitable library manager. iTunes is simply too controlling and doesn't offer the wide Swiss-Army-knife array of features like MM does. Plus, the moment I had a question I couldn't answer myself, and dropped it into these forums, I was soon on a remote session with Pavle (Peke) and he had my issue resolved in just a few moments. I've enjoyed having that resource of support for years.

The user community here, and the wealth of information in these forums, is most definitely a big part of why I stand by my choice, year after year. I welcome the new era that will come with MMW5, but MM4 has been my daily driver for media management and serves my needs quite well.

I should mention to OP that I too am a DJ using Traktor. There's a script available in the add-ons forum called "Export to iTunes library"(look on page 9 of the thread for the latest version) which works quite well. I simply execute it just before I prepare Traktor for a new set. In Traktor, you can choose the file location of your iTunes library, so I'm able to point it to the one used by MM, and keep my actual iTunes library (for other things like TV/movie rentals) separate.

Re: Do you use Media Monkey? Why?

by yarguy » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:58 pm

One of the reasons I moved on from Media Monkey is their decision to devote considerable resources to the lower quality MP3 only Google Play (yes it will upload your FLAC file but it will then change it to MP3). The future of digital audio is not in lossy formats like MP3. MQA is a way to store lossless formats in less space. Tidal, Qobuz and now Deezer are using that technology, music players I mentioned in a previous post use that technology; MM5 does not. An increasing number of digital releases are available in DSD; even JRiver supports that, MM4 & MM5 do not. As I said, the reason I keep MM4 on my desktop is Auto-Organize; it's the best feature of the program.

I'm disappointed that Media Monkey decided to stay behind the times. The program has lots of good features for playing music (not all of which were carried over to MM5); but other programs have moved well past it.

Re: Do you use Media Monkey? Why?

by Linwood » Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:20 am

I am in the process of switching from itunes now. It's a collection of issues over the years, but mostly comes down to a couple of things: (1) Apple's "we know best" changes over the years forced a fair amount of work (or at least research) on my when all i wanted was to use it as a librarian, whether from UI changes, folder structural changes, or how I interacted with Apple's web and authentication (which frankly should have been zero), and (2) I wanted something that was better at organization of physical files, movement of them, format conversion, etc.

Also, after I made the (still a bit tentative) decision, I found MM5 will do google play music sync, or at least some day, which is really useful.

With respect to (1) I realize software has to change (indeed if it is not, it is dead, and that's reason to change also). But so many of apple's changes were disruptive without seeming to bring any real value. Change should be purposeful, not just because some marketing guy decided he didn't like the UI looks.

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