Discogs Tagger 5.52 (Updated: 2017-09-21)

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Re: Discogs Tagger 5.52 (Updated: 2017-09-21)

Post by DJSamhein » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:36 am

Yes, apparently I do have a discogs account. Probably created it just for the script then. Didn't even remember it anymore :)
Still, I haven't needed any re-auth for a very long time.

Re: Discogs Tagger 5.52 (Updated: 2017-09-21)

Post by crap_inhuman » Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:31 pm

DJSamhein wrote:
strevilo wrote:And there is one great and helpful feature available for Musicbrainz search results: The combo dropdown box at the top does include the total track number for each result like this:
(1/2) The BossHoss - The Very Best of Greatest Hits (2005–2017), TrackCount: 33 [Digital Media, Album, Compilation] Germany (2017) / Island

Can you make that feature also available for Discogs results too?? :)


What I do in these cases, when there are many releases and I'm looking for a specific one is to open the album link and then, on the browser, I open all releases in new tabs, so I can cycle them fast. When I find the one I want, I use the release number back on the tagger. It's not ideal, but easier than waiting for discogs tagger to load 30+ albums one by one.

crap_inhuman wrote:
cavaar wrote:I get a message saying that after august 15th you will need an account with discogs. I signed up but can't seem to input an account on MM through the extensions preferences. What can I do to get this feature to work?


Just start Discogs Tagger and confirm the message. After that the discogs webpage should appear. Please log in. Follow the instruction on the screen.


I never had this issue. I don't have a discogs account and I keep using the tagger normally. In fact, it's been a long time since it even asked me for authentication. Not sure if I needed to authenticate even once this year.


You need a discogs account. Without it you can't tagging with Discogs. Authentication ist only once needed.

Re: Discogs Tagger 5.52 (Updated: 2017-09-21)

Post by DJSamhein » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:21 am

strevilo wrote:And there is one great and helpful feature available for Musicbrainz search results: The combo dropdown box at the top does include the total track number for each result like this:
(1/2) The BossHoss - The Very Best of Greatest Hits (2005–2017), TrackCount: 33 [Digital Media, Album, Compilation] Germany (2017) / Island

Can you make that feature also available for Discogs results too?? :)


What I do in these cases, when there are many releases and I'm looking for a specific one is to open the album link and then, on the browser, I open all releases in new tabs, so I can cycle them fast. When I find the one I want, I use the release number back on the tagger. It's not ideal, but easier than waiting for discogs tagger to load 30+ albums one by one.

crap_inhuman wrote:
cavaar wrote:I get a message saying that after august 15th you will need an account with discogs. I signed up but can't seem to input an account on MM through the extensions preferences. What can I do to get this feature to work?


Just start Discogs Tagger and confirm the message. After that the discogs webpage should appear. Please log in. Follow the instruction on the screen.


I never had this issue. I don't have a discogs account and I keep using the tagger normally. In fact, it's been a long time since it even asked me for authentication. Not sure if I needed to authenticate even once this year.

Re: Discogs Tagger 5.52 (Updated: 2017-09-21)

Post by crap_inhuman » Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:15 pm

strevilo wrote:
crap_inhuman wrote:
strevilo wrote:And there is one great and helpful feature available for Musicbrainz search results: The combo dropdown box at the top does include the total track number for each result like this:
(1/2) The BossHoss - The Very Best of Greatest Hits (2005–2017), TrackCount: 33 [Digital Media, Album, Compilation] Germany (2017) / Island

Can you make that feature also available for Discogs results too?? :)


No, this would absolutely helpful, but discogs didn't give back the total track number in a search result.


I see, thanks! - did you check with Discogs if they can make the trackcount available? It would be helpful for their webpage too (have just been looking at the 254 versions of "The Yoshua Tree" by U2 trying to find the 49 track release). If we get more people to request that useful feature we might get heard by the Discogs folks :wink:


Good idea! :wink:

Re: Discogs Tagger 5.52 (Updated: 2017-09-21)

Post by crap_inhuman » Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:40 pm

cavaar wrote:I get a message saying that after august 15th you will need an account with discogs. I signed up but can't seem to input an account on MM through the extensions preferences. What can I do to get this feature to work?


Just start Discogs Tagger and confirm the message. After that the discogs webpage should appear. Please log in. Follow the instruction on the screen.

Re: Discogs Tagger 5.52 (Updated: 2017-09-21)

Post by cavaar » Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:52 pm

I get a message saying that after august 15th you will need an account with discogs. I signed up but can't seem to input an account on MM through the extensions preferences. What can I do to get this feature to work?

Re: Discogs Tagger 5.52 (Updated: 2017-09-21)

Post by strevilo » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:22 am

crap_inhuman wrote:
strevilo wrote:And there is one great and helpful feature available for Musicbrainz search results: The combo dropdown box at the top does include the total track number for each result like this:
(1/2) The BossHoss - The Very Best of Greatest Hits (2005–2017), TrackCount: 33 [Digital Media, Album, Compilation] Germany (2017) / Island

Can you make that feature also available for Discogs results too?? :)


No, this would absolutely helpful, but discogs didn't give back the total track number in a search result.


I see, thanks! - did you check with Discogs if they can make the trackcount available? It would be helpful for their webpage too (have just been looking at the 254 versions of "The Yoshua Tree" by U2 trying to find the 49 track release). If we get more people to request that useful feature we might get heard by the Discogs folks :wink:

Re: Discogs Tagger 5.52 (Updated: 2017-09-21)

Post by crap_inhuman » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:32 pm

strevilo wrote:And there is one great and helpful feature available for Musicbrainz search results: The combo dropdown box at the top does include the total track number for each result like this:
(1/2) The BossHoss - The Very Best of Greatest Hits (2005–2017), TrackCount: 33 [Digital Media, Album, Compilation] Germany (2017) / Island

Can you make that feature also available for Discogs results too?? :)


No, this would absolutely helpful, but discogs didn't give back the total track number in a search result.

Re: Discogs Tagger 5.52 (Updated: 2017-09-21)

Post by strevilo » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:35 pm

And there is one great and helpful feature available for Musicbrainz search results: The combo dropdown box at the top does include the total track number for each result like this:
(1/2) The BossHoss - The Very Best of Greatest Hits (2005–2017), TrackCount: 33 [Digital Media, Album, Compilation] Germany (2017) / Island

Can you make that feature also available for Discogs results too?? :)

Re: Discogs Tagger 5.52 (Updated: 2017-09-21)

Post by strevilo » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:10 pm

If you can't find a release just try "Advanced search" in Discogs Tagger.

Sorry, I have not been explicit. I did use the advanced search

Which search words were choosen?

Artist: BossHoss - (please note my Artist and Album artist tags all have "The BossHoss" but thought the script might auto skip "the")
Album: The Very Best of Greatest Hits (2005–2017) - (as in the tag. To expand possible search results after not getting a single result I removed most of it and just left "The Very Best of")


Now that you found the release I did another thorough check and noticed that I had the "Media Type" filter active. Disabling that filter enabled my finding the 33 track release too :D .
I was now trying to understand what caused my filter to fail my initial search. I did select all! fields in the TYPE filter and still the 33 track release would not appear. What I noticed in the results for the 33 track release was that the FORMAT listed: "Digital Media, Album, Compilation". While I found "Album, Compilation" in the FORMAT filter "Digital Media" was not listed, neither was it in the TYPE filter is used. Is that potentially the root cause? Are the listed FORMAT results a combination of TYPE and FORMAT? So you may want to add "Digital Media" to the TYPE filter.

Try to change the bold numbers

I programmed Discogs Batch Tagger, too. This tool use only the track numbers for the track position. Give it a try. :wink:


I will give both a try and report back.

Re: Discogs Tagger 5.52 (Updated: 2017-09-21)

Post by crap_inhuman » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:39 pm

strevilo wrote:I like to share two other observations for which I hope you can find a quick fix, too:
    1) Not all releases are found (allthough existing in the Discogs/Musicbrainz DB)
    2) In case tracks have identical titles for a release the numbering applied to the tracks is incorrect

I just came across an Album again which shows both issues:
https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/4fecd1a8-f824-4c65-8b73-bbc3107ef8ff
I have the 33 track release with correct titles, track numbers, album and interpret information in the tags. Doing a search @ Discogs returns the one (and only) Vinyl Release in their DB. Searching Musicbrainz returns no results at first. Searching for BossHoss returns some results including the 22 track release of the album in question, but not the 33 track release. Only entering the unique Musicbrainz release ID from the website does return the 33 track release in the script.
There are no special chars involved, the search criteria matches the result 1:1 but nothing found. -- Do you know why? --


If you can't find a release just try "Advanced search" in Discogs Tagger. There you can change the search parameters. I tried "The BossHoss" for artist and "The very best" for album and found the 33 track release.
The search parameters you see after opening the first time "Advanced search" are choosen from the script. Which search words were choosen?

strevilo wrote:Now that I found the correct release with the ID the second issue occurs. Titel of e.g. track 1 on CD 1 and track 6 on CD 2 are identical. The script then returns for both titles track 6 on CD 2 which is quite unfortunate. Everytime a track occurs more than once only the meta data of the "last" track is returned by the script. Is this potentially caused by looping through the tracks?
The only way to circumevent this behavior and still using the script is deleting all title information from all tracks and just have correct track numbers and empty titles. Then the results incl. track and disc numbers returned by the script are correct!

Ideally you can work on both issues but the second one definitely takes priority for me as I experience that behaviour frequently with e.g. Deluxe Editions and similar which have different versions of the same song causing the misalignment of the track numbers.

Again, the tagger is a great tool and I am reporting feedback so you can check if you can further improve the script.
Please let me know if you need any more details or more examples.

Vielen Dank!


Bitte schön. :D

I know this problem, but i can't resolve it. Mediamonkey choose the track numbers and titles. If the titles are identical,it doesn't work. You can change the position of the tracks, you have to write the correct position number in the first column.

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Try to change the bold numbers

I programmed Discogs Batch Tagger, too. This tool use only the track numbers for the track position. Give it a try. :wink:

Re: Discogs Tagger 5.52 (Updated: 2017-09-21)

Post by strevilo » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:10 pm

I like to share two other observations for which I hope you can find a quick fix, too:
    1) Not all releases are found (allthough existing in the Discogs/Musicbrainz DB)
    2) In case tracks have identical titles for a release the numbering applied to the tracks is incorrect

I just came across an Album again which shows both issues:
https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/4fecd1a8-f824-4c65-8b73-bbc3107ef8ff
I have the 33 track release with correct titles, track numbers, album and interpret information in the tags. Doing a search @ Discogs returns the one (and only) Vinyl Release in their DB. Searching Musicbrainz returns no results at first. Searching for BossHoss returns some results including the 22 track release of the album in question, but not the 33 track release. Only entering the unique Musicbrainz release ID from the website does return the 33 track release in the script.
There are no special chars involved, the search criteria matches the result 1:1 but nothing found. -- Do you know why? --

Now that I found the correct release with the ID the second issue occurs. Titel of e.g. track 1 on CD 1 and track 6 on CD 2 are identical. The script then returns for both titles track 6 on CD 2 which is quite unfortunate. Everytime a track occurs more than once only the meta data of the "last" track is returned by the script. Is this potentially caused by looping through the tracks?
The only way to circumevent this behavior and still using the script is deleting all title information from all tracks and just have correct track numbers and empty titles. Then the results incl. track and disc numbers returned by the script are correct!

Ideally you can work on both issues but the second one definitely takes priority for me as I experience that behaviour frequently with e.g. Deluxe Editions and similar which have different versions of the same song causing the misalignment of the track numbers.

Again, the tagger is a great tool and I am reporting feedback so you can check if you can further improve the script.
Please let me know if you need any more details or more examples.

Vielen Dank!

Re: Discogs Tagger 5.51 (Updated: 2017-09-15)

Post by crap_inhuman » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:41 am

DJSamhein wrote:
crap_inhuman wrote:
DJSamhein wrote:If it helps, I'm not having any problems saving album art. Works fine as it used to. Maybe some MM setting changed from an upgrade or something?

Regarding dates, there are still a few times where dates are shown empty, even though the release has one. Latest example is [r8522428].


Ok, i found the reason of the empty date. Release [r8522428] have no master release. Choosing date option 3 force the script to get the date from the master release. But there is none master, so it use no date for both fields.... :wink:

In the next version of the script, if no master release found, the release date will be set. Is this okay?


Yes, it would be acceptable, but could you place a warning in those cases? I guess just a simple icon or asterisk next to the dates would be enough.


No problem, i will show a sign / hint!

Re: Discogs Tagger 5.51 (Updated: 2017-09-15)

Post by crap_inhuman » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:39 am

strevilo wrote:
crap_inhuman wrote:Hi strevilo,

thank you for checking the test-scripts.

You are more than welcome!

For your MusicBrainz problem i found the solution.. i think. :wink:
Please download the new version 5.52 and try it.

I can confirm that indeed you fixed the problem (at least for me). All errors I experienced are gone now. Thanks again for the quick solution.

:thumbsup:


Great ! I'm happy that tagging with MusicBrainz works again !

Thank god it's friday !! :D

Re: Discogs Tagger 5.51 (Updated: 2017-09-15)

Post by strevilo » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:17 am

crap_inhuman wrote:Hi strevilo,

thank you for checking the test-scripts.

You are more than welcome!

For your MusicBrainz problem i found the solution.. i think. :wink:
Please download the new version 5.52 and try it.

I can confirm that indeed you fixed the problem (at least for me). All errors I experienced are gone now. Thanks again for the quick solution.

:thumbsup:

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