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Re: Google Music

Post by rovingcowboy » Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:30 am

What the c.... do i want google's messed up database anywhere near my mediamonkey database,? They made mediamonkey android and it is far better then the junky google music app, if it was not a system file in my phone google music would have been uninstalled long ago. And wormywyrm they make mm metro for the win 8. I'd get the surface pro not rt.

I dont understand this wanting to go to bad programs from the best Mediamonkey!

Re: Google Music

Post by wormywyrm » Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:18 am

simon_weber wrote:Hey guys, I'm Simon - the creator of the Google Music api that wormy linked.

I'm a MediaMonkey user, too! Now that the api is pretty much feature-complete (I just added non-mp3 uploading today), I'm looking into building something to automate syncing from Media Monkey. Since any application has full access to the MM database, this shouldn't be too much of a problem. My current plan is to implement one way syncing, from MM to Google Music. The solution would be external, and in Python to ease interaction with the api. It would work by setting up a typical audit-log on the MM database, and storing a bit of Google Music data in with the existing song/playlist metadata.

If you guys - or anyone else who happens to find this thread - are still interested in this, let me know. I may or may not have time to put towards this project right away, but even if it has to wait it's something I intend to get around to.


:o :o :o Why did I not see this a years ago?? I would have been pretty excited.

I lost interest in trying to get MM to GM because it was time for me to buy a new phone and looking at the market I really wanted a smaller high end phone and iphone is pretty much the only option for that. So I actually ended up switching to iTunes entirely because I wanted to use the genius feature and I just found it too frustrating to sync MM and iTunes. I have been thinking more of using Simon's API to sync iTunes with GM because I am considering getting the Surface RT and (evil) apple has not created or allowed an iTunes app for it. The sad thing is that I could handle all the problems that comes with no 86x compatibility EXCEPT I would lose access to my music. Ah well.

Re: Google Music

Post by anthrex » Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:05 pm

That sucks for us non-coders. I'm glad you started it up I hope someone else puts some work into it, but it looks like I shouldn't keep my hopes up. Thank you and good luck! Hopefully you'll be able to get back to it :)

Re: Google Music

Post by simon_weber » Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:29 am

Hello again, everyone. I apologize for not keeping this thread more up to date.

I've got bad news: since starting my internship at Google, I'm not allowed to work on this project. So, don't expect a real release anytime soon. I managed to keep my code open source, however; hopefully it's of value to somebody.

Despite this setback, I'm still really passionate about the project. I strongly believe that Music would benefit from expanded mediaplayer compatibility. Your support - of which I'm incredibly thankful - is evidence that I'm not alone in thinking this. Hopefully I'll be able to get back to this project in the future.

Thanks again for all your support. If you have general questions about Music, feel free to reach out to me - I'm always happy to help.

Re: Google Music

Post by keirawinsor » Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:17 am

It's just a version of Yahoo music but still they can dominate Yahoo.

Re: Google Music

Post by anthrex » Tue May 22, 2012 3:54 pm

I am really excited for this. I wish I could give coding support, but alas I can't. Thanks for all the hard work!!

Re: Google Music

Post by simon_weber » Sun May 13, 2012 1:30 am

Hey all; sorry for being quiet lately. The end of the semester is always hectic, so I didn't have a lot of time to put into this until recently.

But, I do have some good news! For those who haven't been following along on GitHub, here's an update: I've got the basic syncing working - even in real time with MediaMonkey running (!). Currently, Google Music successfully receives the following: song add/metadata edit/remove and playlist create/delete/name change/contents change (ie song add/remove/reorder).

It's rough around the edges, and not quite ready for real testing, but it works!

Re: Google Music

Post by MPG » Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:30 pm

Google Music is only available to residents of the United States. Useless for us Canadians. :( :evil:

Re: Google Music

Post by bwt1973 » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:42 am

I am also highly interested in this project, but alas I can offer no coding assistance. I would be happy to test when ready, though.

Re: Google Music

Post by simon_weber » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:54 pm

Wargazm: If I understand correctly, yes. There will be no dependency on Google's Music Manager for uploading or pushing changes.

Re: Google Music

Post by Wargazm » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:49 pm

I have a question: I have two copies of my music collection, one on my home server and one on my laptop. I do all of my organizing with MM on my laptop, and then push changes to the server. The actual upload to google music is handled by the server. Can I install the syncing program on my laptop, since that's where the MM DB lies, or does the syncing program require that the MM DB and the Google Music Uploader program reside on the same machine?

Re: Google Music

Post by simon_weber » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:30 pm

bhlaws: Great! I'll be sure to let you know when I've got something to test.

A quick warning about using Google Music as a backup: it won't preserve the exact data you send to it. High-quality files will be transcoded to 320k abr mp3s, and obscure metadata fields may be lost. I've been meaning to write up a blog post about this, since I've seen a couple of people get bitten by it.

Re: Google Music

Post by bhlaws » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:23 pm

I'm new to MediaMonkey and really, really like it so far. I'm also looking to supplement with Google Music (primarily to act as a backup medium). So I am very, very interested in the integration you're working on. I'll grab the unofficial/beta version; I'm in IT and have done programming, so maybe I might be able to help with testing.

Re: Google Music

Post by simon_weber » Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:31 am

Hey everyone, glad to the interest =)

Everything is coming along well, though I haven't had as much time to work on this as I hoped. An update: after a minor setback, real time change monitoring now works! So, you should be able to fire up my program when your computer starts, and it'll push out changes as soon as you make them in MM.

There are a lot of edge cases I'm ignoring right now (duplicates, autoplaylists, user conversion of songs, etc), but I should have something to test out shortly.

Re: Google Music

Post by mothra9999 » Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:10 am

Hi Simon,
Holy cow, we need this MM to GM tool so bad! i cant wait for the first release. i am definitely up for testing support but might not be much use beyond that. Following on github as well.

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