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update/change tags when syncing to ipod or other player

by secretsubscriber » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:18 am

Hello,

I was wondering if there was a way to update tags during the sync process for a given external player (ipod, phone, etc..), similar to the auto conversion rules.
When copying tracks to my ipod, I'd like to append the album year to the album name and make Artist = Album Artist for those multi artist tracks.

I've looked and haven't found anything and assume this functionality doesn't exist. Does it? Is it something that's ever been discussed as being a useful feature to others?

Thanks

Re: Feature for Ipod syncing: Map Album Artist to Artist [#7

by nemohj » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:45 am

:(

I was hoping, since the thread is so old. Where can I bump the priority on this feature?

It's very logical that you'll want to be able to do this, seeing as all users probably have their Libraries set up very differently (why I moved to MM) and would like to not compromise that setup just to have a working iPod library.

Re: Feature for Ipod syncing: Map Album Artist to Artist [#7

by Lowlander » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:52 pm

nemohj wrote:Is there any mod that can help me achieve this?
Not on sync.

Re: Feature for Ipod syncing: Map Album Artist to Artist [#7

by nemohj » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:52 pm

This is exactly what I need! I just need Album Artist assigned to Artist in all tracks when syncing iPod.

Is there any mod that can help me achieve this?

Re: Feature for Ipod syncing: Map Album Artist to Artist

by Lowlander » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:38 pm

I've added the wish to Mantis, but broadened it to be for any device and map any to any field or multiple fields to a field. I think Nohitter151's bug report would probably solve things for iThing users, but doesn't address those with other devices, especially those with poor tagging support.

http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=7441

Re: Feature for Ipod syncing: Map Album Artist to Artist

by carlyman » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:21 pm

Let me start out by saying I am a paid user of MM Gold and love it for organizing, playing, and tagging my music. However, the iPod syncing lacks a key feature of tag mapping (as described in this thread).

I hope I'm not breaking rules, but I have moved to foobar2000 to sync my iPod using the iPod Manager plugin (http://yuo.be/ipod.php). While not the most user friendly, once set up it completely solves all of my iPod syncing woes. Note that it looks like MM saves album artist under a %band% tag (this will make more sense once you start mapping).

Again, I'm not hating on MM...it solves 90% of my needs (and by far the best option for tagging, organizing, and playing). But when I need to sync my iPod, I find fb2k to really fit the bill.

Hope this helps anyone else looking for a solution.
-carlyman

Re: Feature for Ipod syncing: Map Album Artist to Artist

by carlyman » Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:51 am

Has this feature been implemented? Does ANY program do this?

For what seems like a trivial option, I can't believe Apple hasn't implemented it. I'm almost ready to replace all my "artist" fields with "album artist" just so I can get proper (at least in my mind) functionality on my iPod.

Love MM, but this feature would make it the beez kneez!

-carlyman

Re: Feature for Ipod syncing: Map Album Artist to Artist

by Jon EP » Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:48 am

Agreed--that is only in the case of compilations. Unfortunately, these days "artist" information is often incredibly detailed, with a single non-compilation album including multiple artists. It's especially pronounced in hip-hop and electronica, but is found everywhere. For instance, on Dr. Dre's album "The Chronic", the artist tag includes:

Track 1. Dr. Dre; Snoop Dogg
Track 2. Dr. Dre
Track 3. Dr. Dre; Jewell; RBX; Snoop Dogg
etc etc etc.

Each of these creates a different "artist" on the external device, but navigating on the device to music > artists > Dr. Dre > The Chronic would only bring up those tunes on which Dr. Dre is the sole artist.

The same is true even for Bob Dylan's Nashville Skyline, on which the first track's artists are Bob Dylan; Johnny Cash...

Because this is such a common problem, users certainly won't want all of those albums on which this situation arises to have the album artist labelled as "Various Artists," and they are also not really compilations. The cover of the album, its spine, its location in the old record store, etc. all indicate that conceptually this is an album by Dr. Dre, or Bob Dylan, or whoever, so the album artist tag should reflect that. The problem is in the Ipod, for sure, and not in MediaMonkey. But it would be really great if MediaMonkey could provide a fix for apple's faulty software/firmware.

Thanks!

Re: Feature for Ipod syncing: Map Album Artist to Artist

by Lowlander » Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:32 am

That only addresses compilation issues on iPods, I think this wish is broader and would be useful in other situations and other devices with more primitive navigations.

Re: Feature for Ipod syncing: Map Album Artist to Artist

by nohitter151 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:52 am

I don't think this suggestion is the best available, I've already detailed the bug in the bug tracker and offered some other suggestions:
http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=6286

Re: Feature for Ipod syncing: Map Album Artist to Artist

by Jon EP » Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:34 am

Just wanted to bump this topic. It would be really great if MM could convert "artist" to "album artist" on sync with an Ipod or other device, so that searching by artists on the ipod would allow us to actually find whole albums and not just tracks!

Perhaps someone could write a script for this?

Ideally, just including a check-box in the Options > Portable Audio Devices > Ipod.dll > Configure dialogue, perhaps a checkbox saying "convert artist to album artist on sync" would be great. It could work just like on-the-fly filetype conversion works--the MM library stays the same.

Thanks!

Re: Feature for Ipod syncing: Map Album Artist to Artist

by Guest » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:09 pm

There is an option to search by composer on the ipod as well. Since i don't have a huge classical music library and that field is mostly unused to me, i have been using the "extract fields" script to copy the AlbumArist data into the Composer field. Not an ideal solution but it works for me until the ipod finally supports sorting by AlbumArtist.

Re: Feature for Ipod syncing: Map Album Artist to Artist

by Rednroll » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:56 pm

The 1st time I saw this on my iPod I scratched my head. Ever since then, I have just decided to edit my ID3 tags in my library so that "Artist" and "Album Artist" are identical. This has worked well for me, but of course if you're using freedb, or auto-tagging then sometimes you need to do some manual editing after the auto tag. But that's easily done in MM with just a couple clicks.

I really have no preference, since I have a simple work around that works.

Re: Feature for Ipod syncing: Map Album Artist to Artist

by Guest » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:41 pm

Any news regarding this topic?

I'd love such a feature, I don't wanna mess up my library for an expedient sorting on my ipod.

Re: Feature for Ipod syncing: Map Album Artist to Artist

by Guest » Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:28 am

I'm looking for exactly this feature!

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