by windcrest77 » Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:54 pm
brandobean wrote:I too am seeing performance issues with MM4 compared to 3.x. I have a "sorta-big" library with 31,206 files and had no perf issues at all in 3.x. I tried 4.x in portable mode first and loaded ~1000 tracks into it with no issues so I decided to go for it and migrate my whole database. Whoa... starting tracks now takes 4-7 seconds which is frustrating when trying to audition lots of new songs.
I did the following:
1) Optimized the DB before upgrading 3.x -> 4.x
2) Installed 4.x over 3.x and moved a few panels around back the way I like them (art on the left under the tree, Now Playing over the transport on the bottom)
3) Tried to play songs... am seeing 4-7seconds delay from click to playback start (previously, was instant in 3.x)
Any ideas? This is nearly a dealbreaker for me... I only upgraded for the amazon.com auto-tag fix. 7 seconds from click to play is a regression.
Thanks!
I have 130,000 tracks loaded (all lossless > 600 kbps) I am not seeing any issues, I find MM4 to be the same as MM3, not faster, not broken, just the same. (Vista 64 bit, AMD dual core, 6GB RAM, machine is about 3 years old).
Clicking the Entire Library node takes the grid a full 8 seconds to populate 130,000 rows which is the same as MM3. Doing a library re-scan takes over two days if grid is polulated, takes two hours if grid is empty. Queries, either as auto playlists or collections run in under 2 seconds. Playing FLAC files with no artwork is blazingly fast. Playing FLAC files that have 1 to 3 art images, plays slightly slower but still faster than MM3. Playing FLAC files that have over 20 art images (the whole booklet for example) play excrutiatingly slow, sometimes taking up to 10 seconds to begin playing, this has not changed from MM3. I have not yet tried the art editor or evven deleting images, this was excruciatingly slow in MM3 as well as cumbersome asking me up to 40 times whenever I deleted an image if I want it applied to all the songs on the album or some such nonsense. I hope the art handling is improved but wont know till I need to do something there. I suspect this is still bad because when I right click in the now playing album image area, that context pop up takes about 6 seconds to load as it paints the list of 20 album art names. I think the performance problems of MM extend from two things 1) dependency on a grid that is fully populated for the program logic to work 2) loading art when playing files or doing anything (even the art context menu) that has to do with art.
When I scan my other hard drive I will have the remaining 70,000 tracks added for 200,000, I dont expect things to be much different than now.
MM4 did not get slower, but it did not get any faster either in terms of the library, grid or artwork. BUT MM4 does appear to be faster and more stable in terms of the actual music video playback engine.
[quote="brandobean"]I too am seeing performance issues with MM4 compared to 3.x. I have a "sorta-big" library with 31,206 files and had no perf issues at all in 3.x. I tried 4.x in portable mode first and loaded ~1000 tracks into it with no issues so I decided to go for it and migrate my whole database. Whoa... starting tracks now takes 4-7 seconds which is frustrating when trying to audition lots of new songs.
I did the following:
1) Optimized the DB before upgrading 3.x -> 4.x
2) Installed 4.x over 3.x and moved a few panels around back the way I like them (art on the left under the tree, Now Playing over the transport on the bottom)
3) Tried to play songs... am seeing 4-7seconds delay from click to playback start (previously, was instant in 3.x)
Any ideas? This is nearly a dealbreaker for me... I only upgraded for the amazon.com auto-tag fix. 7 seconds from click to play is a regression.
Thanks![/quote]
I have 130,000 tracks loaded (all lossless > 600 kbps) I am not seeing any issues, I find MM4 to be the same as MM3, not faster, not broken, just the same. (Vista 64 bit, AMD dual core, 6GB RAM, machine is about 3 years old).
Clicking the Entire Library node takes the grid a full 8 seconds to populate 130,000 rows which is the same as MM3. Doing a library re-scan takes over two days if grid is polulated, takes two hours if grid is empty. Queries, either as auto playlists or collections run in under 2 seconds. Playing FLAC files with no artwork is blazingly fast. Playing FLAC files that have 1 to 3 art images, plays slightly slower but still faster than MM3. Playing FLAC files that have over 20 art images (the whole booklet for example) play excrutiatingly slow, sometimes taking up to 10 seconds to begin playing, this has not changed from MM3. I have not yet tried the art editor or evven deleting images, this was excruciatingly slow in MM3 as well as cumbersome asking me up to 40 times whenever I deleted an image if I want it applied to all the songs on the album or some such nonsense. I hope the art handling is improved but wont know till I need to do something there. I suspect this is still bad because when I right click in the now playing album image area, that context pop up takes about 6 seconds to load as it paints the list of 20 album art names. I think the performance problems of MM extend from two things 1) dependency on a grid that is fully populated for the program logic to work 2) loading art when playing files or doing anything (even the art context menu) that has to do with art.
When I scan my other hard drive I will have the remaining 70,000 tracks added for 200,000, I dont expect things to be much different than now.
MM4 did not get slower, but it did not get any faster either in terms of the library, grid or artwork. BUT MM4 does appear to be faster and more stable in terms of the actual music video playback engine.