ISSUE: If you try to play a song while the soundcard is busy (and you aren't using directsound or a soundcard that supports multiple WAveOutputs at once) you get an error dialog loop. Every time you OK the dialog, MM moves to next track in queue and throws the error again.
REPRO:
1. use a soundcard that only supports one WAV output at once, and/or don't use directsound as your output device.
2. Play first track in a playlist or in any MM view with multiple tracks shown (so that now playing has multiple tracks queued up)
3. Get error dialog stating the soundcard is busy and track can't be played. (WAVOUT 2.0.2.a)
4. click OK on the error dialog
EXPECTED: After OKing this error, playback should stop and transport should go to stopped mode.
ACTUAL: Track is merely skipped, and next track tries to play, throwing error again. You can't not stop MM to stop this error loop for repeating for every track in the play queue. If you have more than 20-30 tracks in the playlists, you'll likely CTRL-ALT-DEL out.
SYSTEM: WinXP Sp2, Creative Soundblaster card. DX9, MM 2.5.5.0985 (debug)
BUG: Error dialog loop in Now Playing if soundcard is busy
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BUG: Error dialog loop in Now Playing if soundcard is busy
by bmilner on Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:05 am
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by rovingcowboy on Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:53 pm
i have one question for you.
is that soundblaster live card one they called the "Value" card?
if so there is a known driver issue with that value card. it is a dos driver
that needs to be stopped from launchng as it will crash the computer all the time.
if you don't have the value card then please keep reading for another answer from someone else.
is that soundblaster live card one they called the "Value" card?
if so there is a known driver issue with that value card. it is a dos driver
that needs to be stopped from launchng as it will crash the computer all the time.
if you don't have the value card then please keep reading for another answer from someone else.
roving cowboy / keith hall. just a user of media monkey not a programmer. give us all the info pertaining to your errors and someone can help you more correctly.
If you don't know what info to give then check item 14 on the helpful messages link for an idea.
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by rovingcowboy on Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:19 am
go in to the taskmanager and look for the sbd16. i think that is the driver that is messed up on the value card you need to disable that from starting.
it will after some use cause most computers to lock up or crash.
if you go to http://help.lockergnome.com
and look in their archive of 3 to 4 years ago from june to sept. you will
see my messages on the bad sound driver it has been know about that long or longer. i was trying to find out what it was for about 5 months that year so theres a lot of messages but i just can't remember the exact name of that dos driver.? i know it is in one of them messages there?
but to think about it i believe i put it in a post in this forum last year some time? try searching for soundblaster live value in this forum you might find the driver name here faster?
other then doing all that disableing you can go get a better sound blaster card. that value card is the bottom of the barrel.
i contacted creative about that bug to see if they were going to fix it.
they flat out told me NO they don't care to fix tha old card.
and that i sould disable the driver or get a new card.
which is what i just told you.
to be honest i'd get a new card if it was on my main computer system.
because that value card is on my storage computer so sound is not really needed much there.
the card i would get is either the santa crusie turttle beach card. or newer sound blaster card.
i use sixteen bit sound systems though there are others here that use different cards so wait and see what they suggest to get.
it will after some use cause most computers to lock up or crash.
if you go to http://help.lockergnome.com
and look in their archive of 3 to 4 years ago from june to sept. you will
see my messages on the bad sound driver it has been know about that long or longer. i was trying to find out what it was for about 5 months that year so theres a lot of messages but i just can't remember the exact name of that dos driver.? i know it is in one of them messages there?
but to think about it i believe i put it in a post in this forum last year some time? try searching for soundblaster live value in this forum you might find the driver name here faster?
other then doing all that disableing you can go get a better sound blaster card. that value card is the bottom of the barrel.
i contacted creative about that bug to see if they were going to fix it.
they flat out told me NO they don't care to fix tha old card.
and that i sould disable the driver or get a new card.
which is what i just told you.
to be honest i'd get a new card if it was on my main computer system.
because that value card is on my storage computer so sound is not really needed much there.
the card i would get is either the santa crusie turttle beach card. or newer sound blaster card.
i use sixteen bit sound systems though there are others here that use different cards so wait and see what they suggest to get.
roving cowboy / keith hall. just a user of media monkey not a programmer. give us all the info pertaining to your errors and someone can help you more correctly.
If you don't know what info to give then check item 14 on the helpful messages link for an idea.
Monkey's helpful messages at viewtopic.php?p=44008#44008
MY SYSTEMS.
1.Xp pro sp3, vers 3.2 jukebox, pcchips mb. amd sem... built by me) 2.WinXP pro sp3, vers 2.5.5 and vers 3.2 backup storage, shuttle 32a mb, amd athlon put together by me.) 3.WinXp pro sp 3 version 2.5 and version 3.2 work gigabyte mb. amd athlon x2 built by me.) 4.Dell is gone cause its loosing drivers and stuff. 5.WinXp pro sp3, vers 2.5.5, moms computer. Sony vaio.)
If you don't know what info to give then check item 14 on the helpful messages link for an idea.
Monkey's helpful messages at viewtopic.php?p=44008#44008
MY SYSTEMS.
1.Xp pro sp3, vers 3.2 jukebox, pcchips mb. amd sem... built by me) 2.WinXP pro sp3, vers 2.5.5 and vers 3.2 backup storage, shuttle 32a mb, amd athlon put together by me.) 3.WinXp pro sp 3 version 2.5 and version 3.2 work gigabyte mb. amd athlon x2 built by me.) 4.Dell is gone cause its loosing drivers and stuff. 5.WinXp pro sp3, vers 2.5.5, moms computer. Sony vaio.)
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by bmilner on Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:08 am
Yeah, its an old card but it certainly doesn't lock up my machine at all. There is no SB16 listed in the taskmanager (why would there be a driver listed there... its only application processes).
In the Device manager, there the card is showing it's running a signed driver from creative from 2002 (post windows XP) and it has always run fine.
I just had an issue because I had Media Monkey set to play music through WAVE OUT and not via Direct sound. I was thinking, if others did this, they would get into an error loop.
(similar to how MM goes into a warning message loop when you try and delete 10 songs at a time from your PC while one is playing... it warns you that deleting the track will stop playback... 10 times)
In the Device manager, there the card is showing it's running a signed driver from creative from 2002 (post windows XP) and it has always run fine.
I just had an issue because I had Media Monkey set to play music through WAVE OUT and not via Direct sound. I was thinking, if others did this, they would get into an error loop.
(similar to how MM goes into a warning message loop when you try and delete 10 songs at a time from your PC while one is playing... it warns you that deleting the track will stop playback... 10 times)
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by rovingcowboy on Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:51 pm
dang maybe they did fix the old drivers. ? 
they said they did not want to mess with it.
but the driver was a number simular to that one
and it did show up in the taskmanager but i don't know
why it would not in yours for any other reason
then they must have fixed the card's drivers and took
that one out.
or the person that set up the card if it was not you.
did not keep that driver in the system.
it was a really bad driver it caused a memory leak
in the sound card when the sound played on games
or system sounds or music, in other words anytime
the sound was used. it would over an hour or so
cause the system to get jerky and it would make
the games and other app's feel like the computer
was choking on the small swap file.
or feel like the cpu was too hot.
then it would lock up.
but if that driver was in your system i know it
would lock up the computer after some time even on the xp
with all its ram. just because of the memory leak.
so since it is not showing in the taskmanager then it ain't there.
just as to why there is the looping in media monkey
you will then need to do a debug report and send it in to the devlopers.
make sure you get the debug version for the 2.5.5 version of monkey
or the older version if your still using it.
they said they did not want to mess with it.
but the driver was a number simular to that one
and it did show up in the taskmanager but i don't know
why it would not in yours for any other reason
then they must have fixed the card's drivers and took
that one out.
or the person that set up the card if it was not you.
did not keep that driver in the system.
it was a really bad driver it caused a memory leak
in the sound card when the sound played on games
or system sounds or music, in other words anytime
the sound was used. it would over an hour or so
cause the system to get jerky and it would make
the games and other app's feel like the computer
was choking on the small swap file.
or feel like the cpu was too hot.
then it would lock up.
but if that driver was in your system i know it
would lock up the computer after some time even on the xp
with all its ram. just because of the memory leak.
so since it is not showing in the taskmanager then it ain't there.
just as to why there is the looping in media monkey
you will then need to do a debug report and send it in to the devlopers.
make sure you get the debug version for the 2.5.5 version of monkey
or the older version if your still using it.
roving cowboy / keith hall. just a user of media monkey not a programmer. give us all the info pertaining to your errors and someone can help you more correctly.
If you don't know what info to give then check item 14 on the helpful messages link for an idea.
Monkey's helpful messages at viewtopic.php?p=44008#44008
MY SYSTEMS.
1.Xp pro sp3, vers 3.2 jukebox, pcchips mb. amd sem... built by me) 2.WinXP pro sp3, vers 2.5.5 and vers 3.2 backup storage, shuttle 32a mb, amd athlon put together by me.) 3.WinXp pro sp 3 version 2.5 and version 3.2 work gigabyte mb. amd athlon x2 built by me.) 4.Dell is gone cause its loosing drivers and stuff. 5.WinXp pro sp3, vers 2.5.5, moms computer. Sony vaio.)
If you don't know what info to give then check item 14 on the helpful messages link for an idea.
Monkey's helpful messages at viewtopic.php?p=44008#44008
MY SYSTEMS.
1.Xp pro sp3, vers 3.2 jukebox, pcchips mb. amd sem... built by me) 2.WinXP pro sp3, vers 2.5.5 and vers 3.2 backup storage, shuttle 32a mb, amd athlon put together by me.) 3.WinXp pro sp 3 version 2.5 and version 3.2 work gigabyte mb. amd athlon x2 built by me.) 4.Dell is gone cause its loosing drivers and stuff. 5.WinXp pro sp3, vers 2.5.5, moms computer. Sony vaio.)
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