Best practice for multi-user content management

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Re: Best practice for multi-user content management

Postby Hdhntr23 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:11 pm

Now that its working, I wonder what's going to happen once I turn the auto-org rules back on?

I wonder if they will work for each collection as I have them set up?

I rules set up for each collection to sort by album artist... Ill spare you the rules but I have them set up per collection. I wonder when I turn them will they start to work as they should again.

Same question goes for "watching" folders... wonder what happens when I turn those back on?

Guess we will find out!
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Re: Best practice for multi-user content management

Postby Hdhntr23 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:14 pm

Right so... its adding the songs to BOTH the C and the H collections.

Sigh.

Should I set up my "C" collection the same way? Have it point only to my music on C vs all of the other criteria its set to? Is THAT the problem now that I have added the "H" collection? Is that why C is picking up the H stuff now?

Thanks
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Re: Best practice for multi-user content management

Postby MMFrLife » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:49 pm

Do you have auto-org rule something like

check collection - "hyz"
H:\xyz\<Album Artist>\<Track#> <Title>.<Extension>

Maybe someone else can help, but I think, to do what you want, there first needs to be something unique about the files you want to isolate to "H".
I'm not sure, but I don't think you can move by rule, "path identified" files, to more that one place at a time; at least, I don't think so initially.
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Re: Best practice for multi-user content management

Postby Hdhntr23 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:06 pm

Im not necessarily worried about rules right now, Im mostly worried about getting these files into my dbase. Once I have that completed I will worry about rules/auto-org.

In meantime here is my latest update.

I have created several collections and files are able to be brought into a specific collection by itself without going into my MAIN collection on drive C

HOWEVER...

When I try to add files to my main C collection they do NOT get added.

Weird stuff.

What Ive done is changed the main C collection from all of the criteria that comes "stock" and changed it to see only the C criteria like you had me set up the other collection.

This is maddening but I do think I or WE have made serious progress I just need to figure out the C issue now.

Thoughts?
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Re: Best practice for multi-user content management

Postby MMFrLife » Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:20 pm

Hdhntr23 wrote:When I try to add files to my main C collection they do NOT get added. What Ive done is changed the main C collection from all of the criteria that comes "stock" and changed it to see only the C criteria like you had me set up the other collection.

Are you trying to add to C:\ inside MM (My Computer node) or outside of MM?
So, you changed C:\'s collection Value to C:\My Music?
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Re: Best practice for multi-user content management

Postby Hdhntr23 » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:26 am

MMFrLife wrote:Are you trying to add to C:\ inside MM (My Computer node) or outside of MM?


I went into "C"'s collection and went to file/ "add/re-scan" and went to a folder that is covered in the "H" collection and tried to add it to my "C" collection. I am not trying to drag/drop from one to the other if that's what you mean... it wont let me.

MMFrLife wrote:So, you changed C:\'s collection Value to C:\My Music?


Yes I changed C:\'s collection value to C:\My Music. That is what I had to change to make the "H" not cross pollinate into "C"'s collection. I wonder if change it back, will I be able to add/re-scan a folder in another collection to make it add to the "C"?

I let it run all night and I now have about 48K files in my "C" collection (which is what it was and that's good) I also now have about 46K files in my "H" collection which did not cross-pollinate into "C"!!

To answer your earlier question about options for rules, the first option I can use is by collection so I think it will keep "silos" for each collection per rule. I am going to have 4 collections by the time this is all done. I have 2 other collections to populate before I start to figure out the auto-organize rules/watch folders.

I also have found out that the "entire library" node is awesome!! I can sort by anything I want to see my 2 collections (so far) populated. So so so so awesome!!
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How to auto-organize multiple collections?

Postby Hdhntr23 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:53 pm

Hey guys!

So MMFrLife helped me set up my collections based on different directories so that they dont cross-pollinate. I have now have 4 individual collections in discreet silos for lack of a better phrase. (HUGE Thanks to MMFrLife!!)

What I am curious about now is how to set up auto-organize rules for each directory?

I have the rules set up for the way I want them but they arent "auto-organizing" anything.

Here is how I have the rules set up: C:\Users\"user1"\Music\<Album Artist>\(<Year>) <Album>\<Artist> - <Album> - <Track#> - <Title> (note... "user1" edited so no names show)

I have each subsequent rule set up but changed the directory per user.

I also have each directory being "watched" and "scan at start-up". Yet, when it scans at startup it doesn't organize... it just scans.

I do not want the rules to create any cross over into any of the other collections and I want everything to stay discreet or each "silo" as it were. In other words, I do NOT want anything from my "H" collection to show up n my "C" collection and so on.

I am happy to take screenshots if someone can teach me how to post them if necessary?

In the end, I want the program to work in the background like it used to in "MY MUSIC" before I created the other 3 collections to where it organized based on the rule above. I have had that rule in place for about the past 5 years. However since i had t change my music collection to be based on a directory verses the "out of the box" objects that MMonkey sets it up using when installing (my music) etc.

Any and ALL help would be greatly appreciated!
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Re: How to auto-organize multiple collections?

Postby Hdhntr23 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:03 pm

If there was a way to "turn on" a newly created rule and have it run against a directory that would be great!!

It seems new rules only work against files that are added to a directory after that rule is created. Please correct me if I am wrong but thats how it seems rules work.

To solve this, it would be great to have a command to allow that rule to be run against said directory or collection after the rule is created.

Again, maybe I am naive and I havent figured it out... but for the life of me I cannot figure out how to run a new rule against something thats already in the library.

What I have had to do is remove my files from my library and create the rule, then add them back into the collection/library. This seems VERY clunky
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Re: How to auto-organize multiple collections?

Postby MMFrLife » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:23 pm

So, say you have some tracks you want to add to H:\, when you add them,
do you add them in various ways: ripping, right-click add/scan, outside, etc to just "H:\' or "H:\Users\"user1"\Music\<Album Artist>\(<Year>) <Album>\<Artist> - <Album> - <Track#> - <Title>" ?
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Re: How to auto-organize multiple collections?

Postby Hdhntr23 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:08 pm

If I want to add something new... I go to file add/rescan files.

As far as collections, I should be able to drag and drop from one collection to the next but it seems I cant. I put in a feature request in that forum, not sure if that will happen or not.
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Re: How to auto-organize multiple collections?

Postby Hdhntr23 » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:58 pm

Here is what I have done to fix my issue, I deleted everything in 3 of my 4 collections and I have had to re-add them to get the rules to work.

I don't understand why the rules wouldnt work on "watched" folders.

Seems rules only work on in-coming new files.

Interesting.
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