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Re: Catastrophic Failure?

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:21 am
by charmingnathan
Peke wrote:As you are on Win XP in order to make MM and many other apps using IE and scripting so so working a must installs are.

- Internet Explorer 8 http://download.microsoft.com/download/ ... 86-ENU.exe
- VBscript 5.7 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downloa ... px?id=8247
- Windows Media Player 11 and in some rare cases WMF codec updates https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downloa ... tails.aspx
- DirectX 9.0c http://download.microsoft.com/download/ ... redist.exe

If you have any issues let me know I'll check my backups.
Peke,

Thanks for those links. You will, I hope, be delighted to hear that at last there has been some positive progress, though "not a lot"!

The VBscript refused to install advising that the system was already sufficiently updated.

DirectX installed with no problem, but I.E. 8 has, without doubt, made the most difference.

The situation now is:

Media Monkey opens without any error messages at all;

The Amazon Tagger works, and the blank white window now has visible data and graphics in it, BUT...Discogs Tagger is still screwed.

I have tried with three different artists and bands and get the same error messages, firstly : http://imgur.com/a/VTXua I click on okay, then receive: http://imgur.com/a/pC6NF

Any thoughts please?

Re: Catastrophic Failure?

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:27 am
by MMFrLife
Sounds like you are making great progress. :)
Since it seems to be down to the script, you need to ask questions about it in the Discogs Tagger thread.

Re: Catastrophic Failure?

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:14 am
by charmingnathan
Thanks MMFrLife, yes some progress indeed! :D

Looks like I.E. has been largely at fault - what a surprise!

At your suggestion, I have created a thread within the Addons section of the forum, but will leave the question open here also, in case anyone has potential solutions for it.

Cheers.

Re: Catastrophic Failure?

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:19 pm
by Peke
THX for update.

Well at least we figured out it is not the MMW issue. This time, try your best next time :wink: :roll: 8) :)

Most likely the problem with Discogs is that uses newer components not available in XP even updated in order to work and access data. I'm keeping fingers crossed you will make things working.

Re: [SOLVED] Windows XP Catastrophic Failure?

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:52 pm
by Peke
Hi,

I updated list of needed installs here http://forum.mediamonkey.com/viewtopic. ... 60#p434160

Maybe it will help you with MSXML issues, but looks like Win XP usability and of life is very very near. Unfortunately it is a fact we can't escape from.

Re: Catastrophic Failure?

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:26 am
by yarguy
Peke wrote: Most likely the problem with Discogs is that uses newer components not available in XP even updated in order to work and access data. I'm keeping fingers crossed you will make things working.
This is in fact the case with Discogs. It now uses a version of TLS for SSL that is incompatible with XP and never will be now that XP is unsupported. Sorry. Time to upgrade to a supported version of windows or live with the limitations (which I imagine will only increase over time).

Re: [SOLVED] Windows XP Catastrophic Failure?

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:28 pm
by Peke
That should be able to override with hacks. Is investing in dying product worth time and effort?

Re: [SOLVED] Windows XP Catastrophic Failure?

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:52 am
by charmingnathan
This maybe a stupid question, but I shall ask it anyway.

If Discogs Tagger has,in effect, made itself incompatible with XP, is there anyway to downgrade the tagger, i.e. to download the previous version that did and was compatible with XP?

I don't want this to sound like I'm being 'anti' Media Monkey, I would say the same about any piece of software, but it seems a quite over the top requirement that in order to use a piece of software, one has to upgrade their entire O.S.!

Just a thought...

Re: [SOLVED] Windows XP Catastrophic Failure?

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:07 pm
by MMFrLife
Add-Ons are third party and not MM. If keeping it compatible could be done, MM wouldn't do it, anyway. It would be up to the author. Also,
you should ask the author if he knows of a way to obtain an earlier version if you don't still have a copy of yours.

Re: [SOLVED] Windows XP Catastrophic Failure?

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:25 pm
by yarguy
It's not Discogs Tagger that is incompatible, it is the way Discogs itself interacts with other programs that won't work with XP. The previous version of DIscogs Tagger simply wouldn't work with Discogs anymore. And I have to tell you that anyone who wants to keep their program up to date, especially in ways that enhance security is going to end up with their program incapable of running under XP. XP simply is not capable of running some of the newer software security enhancements. I don't want the programs I use to be kept dumbed down and less secure just to keep them compatible with an outmoded operating system.
charmingnathan wrote:This maybe a stupid question, but I shall ask it anyway.

If Discogs Tagger has,in effect, made itself incompatible with XP, is there anyway to downgrade the tagger, i.e. to download the previous version that did and was compatible with XP?

I don't want this to sound like I'm being 'anti' Media Monkey, I would say the same about any piece of software, but it seems a quite over the top requirement that in order to use a piece of software, one has to upgrade their entire O.S.!

Just a thought...

Re: [SOLVED] Windows XP Catastrophic Failure?

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:41 pm
by MMFrLife
yarguy wrote:The previous version of DIscogs Tagger simply wouldn't work with Discogs anymore.
That's a great point, as sites change how things are done over time. Also, XP has long been unsupported and a security risk if using it for net purposes.

Re: [SOLVED] Windows XP Catastrophic Failure?

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:06 pm
by Lowlander
Complete programs have already dropped support for Windows XP. Microsoft also no longer supports it. However unfortunate this is, as XP was a good OS for many and hardware running it often still runs, it often becomes impossible to run the same code base on newer and older versions of Windows.

Re: [SOLVED] Windows XP Catastrophic Failure?

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:09 pm
by Peke
The things are getting worse further as many many many apps drop x86 architecture and focus on x64. It is not just Windows trend, same thing goes with MAC OS X and even my NAS refuse to update software as they require x64 firmware.