1148 ZEN default device config has wrong playlist path

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1148 ZEN default device config has wrong playlist path

Post by chrisjj »

The config created by MM upon a ZEN (firmware V1.20.02e) being connected for the first time has Options > Playlists, Destination directory: \Playlists\ , causing synced playlists to fail to be visible on the device.

Workaround: correct the value to \My Playlists\ .

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Friendly name: My Zen
Storage:
Attributes: 48108
Capabilities: D
Total: 3750461440
Free: 880672768
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[snip]
EDIT: This bug persists in 1708, over six years on. An on Creative ZEN X-Fi too: http://i.imgur.com/h8qGzQG.png

Tracked at: http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=12224
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Re: 1148 ZEN default device config has wrong playlist path

Post by SailorBoy »

chrisjj wrote:The config created by MM upon a ZEN (V1.20.02e) being connected for the first time has Copy Playlists Options... Destination directory: "\Playlists", which causes synced playlists to fail to be visible on the device.

Workaround: change the value to \My Playlists\ .
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Chris,

Many thanks for that post. Your information just converted a useless Zen Xtra 60 GB into a useful functioning unit!

thanks again,
Kevin
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Re: 1148 ZEN default device config has wrong playlist path

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You're welcome. But credit to Nyn who told me.
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Post by nynaevelan »

You're welcome to you both, we Zenners have to stick together. 8)

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We sure do. (Some) safety in numbers! ;)
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Re: 1148 ZEN default device config has wrong playlist path

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This bug persists on 1692, six years on.

Devs, isn't is about time it be fixed?
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Re: 1148 ZEN default device config has wrong playlist path

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The corresponding Mantis issue http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=12224 says this is still unfixed.
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Re: 1148 ZEN default device config has wrong playlist path

Post by Peke »

Hi,
someone with ZEN device should need to export correct profile and upload it to https://www.mediamonkey.com/addons/brow ... -profiles/ but maybe also https://www.mediamonkey.com/addons/brow ... en-vision/ work.
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Re: 1148 ZEN default device config has wrong playlist path

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Peke wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:35 am Hi,
someone with ZEN device should need to export correct profile and upload it to https://www.mediamonkey.com/addons/brow ... -profiles/
I understand that would be a workaround rather than a fix. Thanks.
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Re: 1148 ZEN default device config has wrong playlist path

Post by Peke »

Hi,
There is no actual fix, only way to have it correctly is that we buy each and every device our users have/use in order to make support. API and device specs are in 99.99% closed for third party apps and/or we need to pay fees for using them which would eventually be burden for our users.

Secondly that DB needs to be updated regularly and because that and MM supporting specific Device MM would need to phone home to query databases for specific Device ID (often serial number like windows query own database for each driver).

We would like to avoid that as we value user privacy and till now we have not found right way honor that, even we internally tried to find it.
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Re: 1148 ZEN default device config has wrong playlist path

Post by chrisjj »

Peke wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 3:50 pm only way to have it correctly is that we buy each and every device our users have/use in order to make support.
Not at all. I'll happily send you one. Or easier, why not have MM include a tested config from a user?
Peke wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 3:50 pmAPI and device specs are in 99.99% closed for third party apps and/or we need to pay fees for using them
This is not part of any API or published device spec I know of.
Peke wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 3:50 pmSecondly that DB needs to be updated regularly and because that and MM supporting specific Device MM would need to phone home to query databases for specific Device ID
I think you'd get 99% success by searching the device for any folder with Playlists in the name.

Else simply ask the user to pick the model from a list.
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Re: 1148 ZEN default device config has wrong playlist path

Post by Peke »

Hi,
chrisjj wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:05 pm Not at all. I'll happily send you one. Or easier, why not have MM include a tested config from a user?
Isn't that easier for user to upload device profile to mention page ;) I guess it would at least cut shipping costs.
chrisjj wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:05 pm This is not part of any API or published device spec I know of.
You would not believe, how things are complicated. For example we had user that synced music to USB to be played on 80k car and after few weeks and user returned vehicle to dealer we have found that 4k+ 14" touch Infotainment/ac/navigation/virtual dashboard simply said is not designed to support playlists at all, but you need to be relied on online services (subscription based) to play any music (lossy only) and as end result he even paid 2k for replacement unit and updates to warranty in order to make it valid again.
chrisjj wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:05 pm I think you'd get 99% success by searching the device for any folder with Playlists in the name.
I am not sure I understand what you meant by that.
chrisjj wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:05 pm Else simply ask the user to pick the model from a list.
That is something in the work eg. to make our online information easily accessible in app.
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Re: 1148 ZEN default device config has wrong playlist path

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Peke wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:23 pm Isn't that easier for user to upload device profile to mention page ;) I guess it would at least cut shipping costs.
User /uploading/ to that page does not solve the problem. MM include a tested config from a user does.
Peke wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:23 pm
chrisjj wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:05 pm I think you'd get 99% success by searching the device for any folder with Playlists in the name.
I am not sure I understand what you meant by that.
When MM finds a new MTP device, it searches the folders for one with Playlists in the name, and sets the Playlists Destination Directory to that.
Peke wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:23 pm
chrisjj wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:05 pm Else simply ask the user to pick the model from a list.
That is something in the work eg. to make our online information easily accessible in app.
Great! But it does not need to be an online list. Embedded in MM is better than the current none.

Thanks.
Chris
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