Grr, is MediaMonkey compatible with Android?

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Grr, is MediaMonkey compatible with Android?

Post by mgillespie » Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:49 pm

As it seems to copy incompatible .PLA playlists rather M3U when I sync...

It seems to be MM has become nothing more than an Apple/iPhone sync app...
(EDIT: incompatible iPhone sync app - perhaps if the developers spent less time trying to circumvent Apple's blocking of anything non-iTunes, they could support every other media device)

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Re: Grr, is MediaMonkey compatible with Android?

Post by Music Diva » Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:49 pm

They can't get either right if it's the newer OSes it seems. My Honeycomb tablet doesn't work. Doesn't seem to work well on ICS either from what I'm reading. And neither does my iPhone 4S(obviously). I'm pretty frustrated right now myself! :x

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Re: Grr, is MediaMonkey compatible with Android?

Post by nohitter151 » Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:10 pm

MM will always use m3u playlists if you instead sync using the USB_mass plugin. see http://www.mediamonkey.com/support/inde ... rticleid=2
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Re: Grr, is MediaMonkey compatible with Android?

Post by mgillespie » Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:21 pm

That is no use to me, it means using USB mode, SD card is disconnected from the phones memory.

This is less than ideal, and not an option.

Perhaps MM need to remove Android compatibility as well as iPhone compatibility from their website....

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Re: Grr, is MediaMonkey compatible with Android?

Post by jiri » Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:09 am

We are certainly interested in 100% compatibility with any device, all Android devices in particular. So please provide more details about how do you synchronize, what device do you use and maybe an included debug log would help.

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Re: Grr, is MediaMonkey compatible with Android?

Post by Music Diva » Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:57 pm

Sorry, I was frustrated the other day.

Well in my case, I am using the Evo View(HTC Flyer with 4G). It shows up as an HTC Hero, but I'm running Honeycomb, while I think the Hero only went up to 2.1 or 2.2? I got it working anyway by uninstalling MM and all the folders, reinstalling and resetting everything from scratch. Not sure what went wrong. I think it was reading the database wrong while syncing, it could never complete.

As for the iPhone 4S, I went to their iCloud sync for the time being. I would still prefer local sync though.

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Re: Grr, is MediaMonkey compatible with Android?

Post by mgillespie » Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:14 am

OK, specifically the Problem:

Device: Sony Ericsson XPeria Arc S
Firmware: Gingerbread Android 2.3.4
Connection Mode: MTP

Mediamonkey syncronises the music to the device just fine, but copies the playlists as .pla format. This is not compatible with this device the default-capability.xml clearly does not mention .pla and only M3U.

It's looking like you totally disregard what the MTP XML tells you, and just copies .PLA.

<audio-playlist>
<format id="m3u8" preferred="true">
<extension>m3u</extension>
</format>
</audio-playlist>


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Re: Grr, is MediaMonkey compatible with Android?

Post by jiri » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:11 am

Please download http://www.mediamonkey.com/beta/WMLog.exe and send me the generated log (at least its beginning where supported formats are listed). That should explain why m3u wasn't detected.

Thanks,
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Re: Grr, is MediaMonkey compatible with Android?

Post by mgillespie » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:32 am

Same problem reported here:

(Xperia Arc)
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... id#p300192

And here:

(Samsung Galaxy Note)
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... id#p322996

Seems like quite a common Android bug. I will run the utility tonight and generate the debug log. However I hope the devs take this problem seriously, as this problem seem to have been around for at least 6+ months.

PS. Anyone know how to force the playlist format during MTP transfers, or somehow convert PLA to M3U8?

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Re: Grr, is MediaMonkey compatible with Android?

Post by mgillespie » Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:59 pm

Logfile (enum part):

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Name: Xperia arc S
Manufacturer: Sony Ericsson
Power: 5 - 66
Version: 0
Icon: 9963557
Type: D3
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Re: Grr, is MediaMonkey compatible with Android?

Post by mgillespie » Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:10 pm

Another long thread about this problem...

http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... 12&t=63143
(Galaxy Nexus this time).

I wonder how many other Android phones are broken for playlist sync???

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Re: Grr, is MediaMonkey compatible with Android?

Post by mgillespie » Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:53 am

And another report of this problem:

http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... 12&t=64055


Can I ask, is there a defect raised for this in your Mantis system, what it's priority is, and if it's a blocker for MM4.03?

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Re: Grr, is MediaMonkey compatible with Android?

Post by jiri » Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:48 am

It's entered and now also fixed as http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=9066 . If you can test it before the next build is out, there's an updated http://www.mediamonkey.com/beta/d_WMDM.dll available. Just replace the current one in Plugins folder and it should work fine.

Thanks,
Jiri

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Re: Grr, is MediaMonkey compatible with Android?

Post by mgillespie » Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:24 pm

Still no go. It's definitely DIFFERENT, it's now creating playlists of a different kind, they appear as 0 byte files in MTP browsing, but when opened using Windows Explorer, they do seem to have valid references. They AREN'T M3U files, and they AREN'T still recognized by the Android player..

They don't seem to have any file extension, and when browsed on the device itself, seem to be empty....

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Re: Grr, is MediaMonkey compatible with Android?

Post by mgillespie » Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:56 am

Tested on a complete 4.0.3.1469 and it's definitely not working still.

I also ran WMLog with the new version, and did a diff between the last log, and it was the same (battery, icon and diskspace being the only difference at the start of the file)

I'm guessing as it was blocker before, it still is?

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