Genre Finder 5.0 - Updated 05/08/2012

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Re: Genre Finder 4.9 - Updated 25/02/2011

Post by Birdman1985 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:39 pm

Thanks gpzbc, i figured as much. It isn't as much generally specific genres. At the moment i am in the same boat as so many others seem to be, with genres like acid rock, acid-rock, alt acid-rock, harcore rock-acid, then comes the heavies and the alternatives and the metals and the millions of others. Thought something might be available so for the mood i am in can select a listening genre and play 30-40 albums instead of the current 1-3.

All good though, thankyou.

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Re: Genre Finder 4.9 - Updated 25/02/2011

Post by gpzbc » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:00 pm

You might check out the Tagging Inconsistencies script. It can at least help you identify the genres with just a few albums in it. And it does a whole lot more. It is perfect if you are obsessive about your music library.
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Re: Genre Finder 4.9 - Updated 25/02/2011

Post by Xing » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:21 pm

This problem can be averted with a Whitelist. Many people have shared theirs. You can view mine here:

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzL0MP ... UR1MFdrQzg

If it's of interest to you. That's the actual file I use sync'd with Google Drive so if you like my whitelist choices you can check back on the URL from time to time because as I made additions/modifications to it, that file will sync to it.
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Re: Genre Finder 5.0 - Updated 05/08/2012

Post by trixmoto » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:48 am

New version (5.0) is now available to download from my website. Changes include...

- Fixed confirming each value individually is corrupting spaces
- Added buttons to save and load update lists
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Re: Genre Finder 5.0 - Updated 05/08/2012

Post by jennylynne » Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:07 pm

Hi!

Thank you so much for this complex add-on. I have been toying with it for a couple of weeks now. I've creating multiple white lists, black lists, and keep lists to try out. I've dug through the the thread many many times, and I feel I learn something new every time I come here, though I still feel hopelessly lost much of the time. :o

Anyway, I'll tell you what I'm attempting to do and perhaps you can tell me if it's even possible and nudge me along or shove me in a different path. :P

I basically like how allmusic.com has its music genre's broken down -- and no, I'm not going to ask if it's possible to use genrefinder to pull from there. I get the whole API deal. I just like the way they're organized. So, I would like to set up my genres in 3 tiers too. You know, have a basic Main Genre like Pop/Rock, R&B, Electronic, Country, etc., then have a main Sub-Genre under each with mini-sub-genres under those. So, There'd be things like Alt/Indie Rock as a Sub-Genre and Cowpunk as a mini-sub.

The thing is that I'm not interested in all of the mini-subs, just some of them. However, what I want to make sure of is: If someone on last.fm has labeled something as "electro-industrial", even though I don't want that specific mini-sub in my list, I do want to know that song is Alt/Indie Rock and thus Pop/Rock.

So, for most of the items in my white list, I actually have multiple genre tags I want to add to my Genre field. Is it possible to have translations like:

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cowpunk=Pop/Rock; Alt/Indie Rock; Cowpunk,electro%industrial=Pop/Rock; Alt/Indie Rock
The other issue I've run into is the sort order in which the tags file into the Genre field. It doesn't seem to matter how I organize my white list file, they don't appear to consistently file in any regular order and I would like for the Main Genres to appear first in the list. Is there any way to sort/weight the main ones so they appear first when they file?

(Unfortunately, I attempted to put the Main Genre in Grouping, Sub-Genre in Genre, and mini-sub in Custom 1, but that's when I discovered that Grouping can't be used as nodes. :( )

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Genre Finder 5.0 - Updated 05/08/2012

Post by trixmoto » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:41 am

It certainly is a complex one!

Currently there is no way to handle multiple translations like this - and given the way the script works I think it would be very tricky to implement. I can have a look though.

Weightings is something that I believe has been requested before, and I just thought it was far too complicated to try and implement. The values are added in the order that they're found, I think. I'll have another think about it though, maybe I can add a new list type of "Order", or something.
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Re: Genre Finder 5.0 - Updated 05/08/2012

Post by Xing » Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:50 am

I do a sort of "tiered" Genre like that using the Grouping field in MM. I run a white list of acceptable "top level" genre's (pretty broud) that I throw in that field and then a more detailed white list against the regular Genre field. Can then create Autoplaylists off both fields as needed.
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Re: Genre Finder 5.0 - Updated 05/08/2012

Post by jennylynne » Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:42 am

I just wanted to let you know that I tested out my idea of being able to have multiple results for a single tag using the semi-colon. It does work.

However, even going through find one by one, I still ended up with duplicates in many of my Genre fields. I used the Find & Replace add-on to eliminate the duplicates afterward.

Of course, I am still refining/tweaking my choices. In most cases, I am merging the 2nd and 3rd tiers.

For example, I am ending up with something like:

R&B
R&B (Doo-Wop)
R&B (Motown)
R&B (Quiet Storm)
R&B (Urban)
R&B - Soul
R&B - Soul (Funk)
R&B - Soul (Pop)
R&B - Soul (Psych)
R&B - Soul (Neo)

I realize this might lead to longer Genre names, but there will be fewer in a single track.

Xing -- I played around with Grouping but the lack of node functionality is what caused me to abandon that field. I might return to it later, but right now I just feel it is too limiting. I feel like I should be able to access it via nodes, like Genre, both to view and to edit.

J.

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Re: Genre Finder 5.0 - Updated 05/08/2012

Post by Xing » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:28 pm

Have you looked at the Magic Nodes script?
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Re: Genre Finder 5.0 - Updated 05/08/2012

Post by Blutarsky » Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:44 am

Trixmoto,
I have many tracks holding multiple genres however mediamonkey 4.0.6 will show only the first. Is this by design?

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Re: Genre Finder 5.0 - Updated 05/08/2012

Post by trixmoto » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:46 pm

No, MM will show multiple genres, as long as they are separated by your configured delimiter (semi-colon by default).
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Re: Genre Finder 5.0 - Updated 05/08/2012

Post by Blutarsky » Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:26 am

Must be a bug in MM..... once I have restarted it, multiple genres were showing correctly.

BTW, does Genre Finder uses the genre/subgenre approach, stuffing the main genre as the leftmost value?

For example: Rock; Psychedelic rock; Progressive Rock

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Re: Genre Finder 5.0 - Updated 05/08/2012

Post by trixmoto » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:07 pm

No, it doesn't really have a concept of "main" or "sub" genre currently.
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Re: Genre Finder 5.0 - Updated 05/08/2012

Post by Blutarsky » Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:35 am

I see MusicBrainz last.fm plus plugin using this approach. A custom tag ("Grouping") containing the main genre (not necessary IMO, but could be handy for future use) and the classic "Genre" tag holding multiple values; here the user is given an opportunity to stick the main genre as the leftmost value....

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Re: Genre Finder 5.0 - Updated 05/08/2012

Post by kluv » Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:38 am

Can anyone help me? I've tried playing with this for awhile now and I'm completely lost on how the white & black list work. Most of the music I've tried getting a genre from have about 20 of them each. I tried black listing all the crazy ones but they still pop up; I tried doing the transition( r 'n' b= R&B) that actually worked but then R&B was the only thing that would come up correct.... any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.

Example: This is all for the tags for Rihanna's "Where have you been". Trying to get one tag R&B, it's not on here but I read you could change the tag using the =. I need to do the same thing for tags i want to label as Hip-Hop, Rock, Reggae, Jazz and Classical

Pop; Rnb; Female Vocalists; Dance; Hip-Hop; R&b; Hip Hop; Reggae; Sexy; Female; American; Dancehall; Female Vocalist; Soul; Barbadian; Barbados; 00s; Dance-pop; Electronic; Club; Urban; Britney Spears; R'n'b; Guilty Pleasure; Hot; Party; Love; Dance Pop; R And B; Rhythm And Blues; Electropop; Diva; Mainstream; Guilty Pleasures; Beautiful; Bitch; Rap; Umbrella; USA; Rock; House; Hiphop; Alternative; Legend; English; Female Vocal; Amazing; Electro; Cool; <3; Pop Rock; Sweet; Trance; Fun; Remix; Black; Rihana; Contemporary Rnb; Officially Shit; Rehab; Favorite; Caribbean; Electro-pop; Brutal Death Metal; Dubstep; Top 40; Overrated; Bajan; Electro Pop; Women; Pop Princess; Bootylicious; Disco; Fierce; Breakcore; Rhianna; Black Music; Girls; 10s; Easy Listening; Singer-songwriter; Great Voice; Blonde; Wanessa; Favorite Artists; 2010s; Baby Love; Favorites; Electronica; Disturbia; Bionic; 2000s; Industrial; All Things Annoying In The World Put Together Into One Stupid Bitch; Indie; Favourites; Awesome; Best; Female Vocals

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