MM4 with readynas - upnp or dnla or folder scan or what?

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MM4 with readynas - upnp or dnla or folder scan or what?

Postby kzabak » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:57 pm

hey
i use MM for 2-3 years now and will get rid of the iphone in the winter and hopefully be a happy man.....
i always hated players only able to organize files by tags and have my own folder structure, but seeing the possibilities of a centralized own media server i wanted to change to a db with all this nice data at the hand

to get there i want:

-put my media on my readynas
-access them for playback on the road
-be able to play them on my home network on different locations with airplay or other means(lanradio eg)
-HAVE ALL DEVICES SYNC THEIR METADATA TO THIS 1 SPOT

so first i have dnla and a itunes server enabled on the readynas...but normally i would just acces the files over "my computer" in MM...
so what pros cons does it have to acces the files from a MM pc either over lan(my comp), over the dnla shares, and over the itunes server?
how would i see them show up in MM?
i also set up a plex media server, but cant acces it via MM..or can i?!?

in general i would want to have MM running on a small netbook and playing it from there.. but i have a really extensive and growing library and it always took time to scan all that...
is there a way to work with the old scan and only update files when i want to play them? or sth else that doesnt slow down the time from startup to soundoutput?

what is the best way to share my music for this pc, on the go apps, consoles and "least restricted" whilst being able to always collect and sync the metadata from the players (playback count, rating....)

i would really wanna do this right from the start and have some trouble understanding the pros and cons of different methods...


just to be sure....
dnla actually only makes shares visible for dnla players - will tags sync? transcoding for video must be done by the server,if capable right?
the itunes server has its own database for metadata, right? isnt it the thing i want?!?! (i hope not;)
accessing over network is complicated and meta is stored in the tags?
metadata is stored either in tags or a db, right? what are either pros and cons?

hope someone here picks me up and teaches me a lesson or 2
would be great-all the setup and ports and all make my head spin already...
thx in advance
kzabak
 

Re: MM4 with readynas - upnp or dnla or folder scan or what?

Postby Lowlander » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:09 pm

If you scan a UPnP Server into MediaMonkey you would be able to play the files in MediaMonkey, but will only see a few of the tags and won't be able to edit the files back on the UPnP Server. This means that the best method is to scan files into the MediaMonkey Library over the UNC Path from the ReadyNAS: http://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/index.p ... ibrary/4.0

Once this is done you can modify the files and have the changes be saved back to the files on the ReadyNAS. Furthermore you can now also create Playlists and AutoPlaylists in MediaMonkey to further enhance your playing experience.

If you're only interested in playing files from the ReadyNAS (no tag editing/no playlist creation) you could access it in the Media Servers node. No need for any scanning. You can also select the ReadyNAS UPnP Server (or any other UPnP Server) in that node and use File > Add/Rescan Files, which will add the files, but still won't allow for editing of the tags in the files.

I believe the iTunes Server on the ReadyNAS will only be of interest if you use iTunes or an iDevice, otherwise I don't think it will be useful.

As for UPnP Servers some will be able to transcode files (MediaMonkey's UPnP Media Server can) and others won't be able to. This means depending on which clients you will be using you choose your UPnP Server. MediaMonkey's UPnP Media Server can transcode (Auto-Conversion) to various formats based on various rules (same as AutoSyncs Auto-Conversion) and furthermore allows you to share the powerful criteria based AutoPlaylists. On the downside however it would require the PC running the MediaMonkey UPnP Media Server to be turned on when clients want to play content.
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Re: MM4 with readynas - upnp or dnla or folder scan or what?

Postby kzabak » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:30 pm

ey
thx a ton

so i guess best way is to just leave upnp share folders on and scan them and disable the itunes library
i will use plex for tv shows and streaming movies for now-excellent meta and interface

so i only have to see for on the go... is it possible to send remote data back to the files when streaming them from an android device? also i need to be able to rate and delete files from on the go...

sry but still confused...are things like playcount and rating stored in tags or in a db or both or depending on client?
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Re: MM4 with readynas - upnp or dnla or folder scan or what?

Postby Lowlander » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:33 pm

You can't modify (rate/delete) files over UPnP, it is just a way to stream and control playback.
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Re: MM4 with readynas - upnp or dnla or folder scan or what?

Postby kzabak » Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:01 pm

hey again
so i scanned and had really lots of files in there...100k+
so i went on starting to tag the monster...i started with the genres since thats how i have them in my structure...
so i browse in MM to the Rock folder for example-choose the "all" folder and tag all these files to a new genre...
today i restarted the pc in the morning-now the library is still having the old genres...
something wnt wrong and i had that error a few times already....newly tagged files have the old tags...
also MM seems sometimes not be able to shut down properly...

is this a result of too many files?

i thought whe i retag many files and i see the green bar and counter in the bottom the t5ags are changed right there and then? how can they have the old tags afterwards?
also when i have the feeling the tags arent correct.... what should i do? rescan files or delete the db and rescan? or maintain library?
any help would be nice

1more q- how does the "scan contiously" option handle in reality? also in regards of huge libraries?
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