Using Rendezvous proxy with MM

[markstuartwalker]

Here's a slightly off-topic item ... how to listen to iTunes over the internet via their homesharing facilities. This isn't usually possible as the DAAP protocol requires a broadcast which doesn't traverse routers so it's limited to the local subnet. This uses a local proxy (rendezvous proxy) which pretends to be an iTunes streaming server. http://www.sys-admin.co.uk/?p=82

By using the d_itunes plugin I can sync my MM to an instance of iTunes and use the above technique to stream it to a remote location.

Can I do this with MM?

[Lowlander]

You're supposed to be able to listen to MediaMonkey's DLNA server if you open ports in Router and have a client you can direct to a specific DLNA server (some smartphone apps can do this, not sure about desktop software).

Keep us updated on any success.

[markstuartwalker]

No it doesn't work unless your DLNA client can manually "point" to the correct IP address. DLNA uses similar auto discover techniques (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Ser ... y_Protocol) to Apple's bonjour protocols. Both work via network broadcasts which are limited to the local network only.

[Ludek]

This is tracked in Mantis as http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=8100

[markstuartwalker]

Does anyone know the URL necessary to connect to MM? iTunes uses daap://ip:port.

What is the equivalent for MM?

[Lowlander]

Not sure, try http://<IP>:<Port>/DeviceDescription.xml

[Ludek]

Not sure, try http://<IP>:<Port>/DeviceDescription.xml

Yes, you are right, as described here:
http://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/index.p ... ervers/4.0

[markstuartwalker]

Ok, I've looked at VLC, XBMC and WMP but I'm unable to see on any of them where I can enter a manual http://127.0.0.1:19999/DeviceDescription.xml path. Can someone post a step by step example please.

[khelsing]

I'm unable to see on any of them where I can enter a manual http://127.0.0.1:19999/DeviceDescription.xml path.

AFAIK there's no UPnP-AV/DLNA client for desktop computers which supports this. Wouldn't make much sense, anyway, as DLNA wasn't designed to work outside of local area networks.

[markstuartwalker]

DLNA happens not to work outside of the local subnet. The reason for this is that it uses UDP broadcasts to auto-discover the services on the other DLNA servers. But this restriction is only for auto-discovery, the actual media playing is possible from a different subnet (it uses TCP and this can be routed through gateways). So if a manual mechanism is introduced to 'auto-discover' the DLNA server then connections can work as normal.

I think that is what is being considered here http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=8100

[khelsing]

So if a manual mechanism is introduced to 'auto-discover' the DLNA server then connections can work as normal.

I know of one or two DNLA clients on Android which support this "manual" approach. However, allowing access to the local DLNA server from the internet has several major disadvantages. First of all there might be security issues. The typical upload speed of today's internet connections is very limited, therefore navigating the music collection will be quite slow. Furthermore accessing the DLNA server at home from the internet can result in heavy traffic.

IMO a free or low-cost service like Google Music, MP3tunes or iTunes Match is a much better alternative.

[markstuartwalker]

I understand the security implications. I'm using an encrypted ssh tunnel as it traverses a firewall too.

I have used SubSonic sucessfully over a similar link. The speed is surprisingly acceptable.

[markstuartwalker]

Any news for a beta for the manually entered DLNA server facilities?

[markstuartwalker]

This doesn't seem to be in the 4.0.5.1481 build

[nohitter151]

This doesn't seem to be in the 4.0.5.1481 build

It's planned for MM 4.1:
http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=8100