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File Properties

Postby JamesSWER » Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:04 pm

I have file property issues, I use MP3tag to edit my mp3 file/tags and even after I edit tags, once I use Itunes, Music Bee or Media Monkey some of the songs tags change back to what I assume they originally were.
One such example is I have
Through the Storm 1989 artist I have the artist as Aretha Franklin & George Michael, it has been changed too just Aretha Franklin.
I have the genre as 90's Pop it has been ch to Soul
I have the album as Through the Storm it has been ch to Aretha Franklin Greatest Hits
It now has a track number, I had nothing in this field.

One more is
The Secret Garden (Sweet Seduction Suite) 1990 I have the artist as Al B Sure, James Ingram, Barry White, Quincy Jones & El DeBarge it has been changed to just Quincy Jones
The year has been changed from 1990 to 2005
I had the comment as 131 it has been changed to 0 Team CNS/Team CNS
I genre as 90's Pop it has been change to R&B
I have the album as Back on the Block it has been chaged to Slow Jams 3
I had no track number listed it now has one added.

This is just two examples.

I use mp3tag to edit my tags.
I have unchecked the "infer file propertys" check box in Media Monkey.
I realize this may very well not be a Media Monkey issue, apparently the some tags are not really being changed w Mp3tag , but any help would greatly be appreciated, I have at least about 40 other songs that something changed.
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Re: File Properties

Postby Peke » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:09 am

Hi,
Your main problem is that once MMW scan files in library it prefer to use library info and not file tag info.

You need to rescan files after change in Third party apps like MP3Tag and under tools -> Options -> Library enable Update tag info on rescan. That way MMW will reread tracks and update library with changes from other apps.

Infer track properties do not influence on tag changes, but rather MMW tries to fill missing info from Path and filename based on common naming formats.
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Re: File Properties

Postby JamesSWER » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:31 am

Peke,
What do you mean by rescaning in mp3tag?
When you under tools >options> library do you mean in MM? If so this was already Checked
Thanks
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Re: File Properties

Postby Lowlander » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:54 am

After you make a change to the tags in MP3Tag you need to rescan the files in MediaMonkey. As MediaMonkey uses a database for tags it needs to be updated each time you change the files tags outside of MediaMonkey. This is the same for any program relying on a database.
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Re: File Properties

Postby JamesSWER » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:29 pm

That's exactly what I did the other day after I unchecked infer file propertys. The mp3s are correct when I open them on cpu or mp3tag, they only show wrong after they are in MM or other median player, it about 50 songs songs that culprit
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Re: File Properties

Postby Lowlander » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:47 pm

Create a copy of a problem file. View it through My Computer in MediaMonkey. Do the correct or incorrect tags show?
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Re: File Properties

Postby JamesSWER » Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:35 pm

Yes, I made a copy of one of the songs, in my downloads on cpu that was mentioned in my original post and it has the same info ( I opened it through File> open url or file :-? :( Thanks
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Re: File Properties

Postby Lowlander » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:29 pm

Same wrong or correct info? If it is the same wrong info the problem lies with MP3Tag not tagging correctly or the file having corrupted tags (audio often is fine) preventing proper tagging.
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Re: File Properties

Postby JamesSWER » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:14 pm

I'm sorry yes when I view through MM the info is the same -incorrect. I guess mp3tag is not saving the info , How do I fix this is there another tagger I could use?

Thanks
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Re: File Properties

Postby Lowlander » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:45 pm

MediaMonkey can tag.
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Re: File Properties

Postby JamesSWER » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:57 pm

When you say "under tools -> Options -> Library enable Update tag info on rescan". Are you talking doing this in MM or mp3tag? If you are talking about "Update File info from Tags when rescanning Files" in MM ,this box is already checked.

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Re: File Properties

Postby Lowlander » Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:26 pm

MM, and try disabling the option only for changed timestamp.

However as you created a copy of the file and it still fails the problem lies elsewhere.
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Re: File Properties

Postby Peke » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:19 pm

Hi,
There is also another possibility that file contain multiple metadata formats.

If you find file that clkearly shows correct info in MP3Tag whenever you copy file to different location making it new to MP3Tag but that file is not read correctly from MMW my computer node (before you scan it to library) then I would like to take a look at the file.
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Re: File Properties

Postby JamesSWER » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:04 pm

Pavle, how would I get that to you?

One other question, If I change tags through MM on a certain folder let's call it folder "a" for example and they are now correct in MM, then my cpu crashes sometime, If I reinstalled MM and rescaned that folder "a" would the tags be the same? Thanks
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Re: File Properties

Postby Lowlander » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:42 pm

By default any tag changes in MediaMonkey are saved to both the database and the file. This means that any other program should see the changes.

You may also want to backup the database regularly. This way you have a backup of the tags independent of the files, but also Playlists and unsaved tags (like Play History).


You can upload any sample file to any file sharing (like Dropbox) and add the link to a Support Ticket.
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