MM4: Ok, that's it?

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Re: MM4: Ok, that's it?

Post by nohitter151 » Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:49 pm

Onweerwolf wrote:Could someone explain to me what this means:
5215 Added [Playlist / Search] Implement sort by DATEAdded (not DateTimeAdded)
It avoids the problem described in this post:
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... um#p244018
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Re: MM4: Ok, that's it?

Post by Onweerwolf » Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:01 pm

nohitter151 wrote:
Onweerwolf wrote:Could someone explain to me what this means:
5215 Added [Playlist / Search] Implement sort by DATEAdded (not DateTimeAdded)
It avoids the problem described in this post:
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... um#p244018
Thnx! I'm not exactly sure if i understand this though.

Does it now sort by date first and then by album and tracknumber?

Meaning that if you use this sort on two songs from different albums that were added on the same day the song from the albumtitle that comes alphabetically first will appear before the other song even though you may have added the former at 7 am and the latter at 3 pm on that same day?
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Re: MM4: Ok, that's it?

Post by nohitter151 » Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:03 pm

Basically the only change is as follows:

With sort order "Added" for an autoplaylist it will sort on both date and time. However, if you sort by "Added", then by "Album", it will ignore the time component so that the albums will be sorted correctly.
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Re: MM4: Ok, that's it?

Post by Onweerwolf » Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:27 am

Aha! Thanks for explaining!
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Re: MM4: Ok, that's it?

Post by Falcon » Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:58 pm

So... the only question I personally have is... any ETA when v4 will be released!? :D
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Re: MM4: Ok, that's it?

Post by Lowlander » Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:25 pm

ETA's are not given as they only serve to frustrate when passed.
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Re: MM4: Ok, that's it?

Post by Peke » Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:52 pm

@Falcon
Well there is Alpha version for those that are not patient. Although in some cases Alpha Release mostly means:
a) "Using Alpha is the way to learn how to be patient" (For me and with MM that never happened as I only need to remember where my 50k of tracks are gone after I started MM4 Alpha)
b) Backup and Backup of Backup and you will be safe. That means to be careful with New features and do not do bulk 30k track work at single click, but do few at the time unknown thing can still happen more often than in Stable release

All team members use nightly builds for several months now without Major issues and file loosing, but that is when 10 people use it internally and when it is publicly available on Internet than that is called Alpha (be warned).
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Re: MM4: Ok, that's it?

Post by gilesjp » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:19 am

The update to version four is great. Sure MM is ugly, nothing new about that. However, as far as getting things done like tagging,reporting and organizing its the best out here and sounds great. The video is a great addition and in my opinion makes it a better video organizer than music organizer. I have not seen the option to rip a dvd into the library yet. I hope that comes with the official release since I have hundreds of dvds in storage. I dumped a couple of hundred music videos into the library and the old scripts work just as well as ever on them so I doubt the script writers will have to do them over.

As the poster above mentioned the face lift will come some other time. As long as MM keeps ahead of the "pretty" programs in functionality it will be fine. But with competition like musicbee putting out video early this year as well, its going to be a great year for digital media organizers.

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Re: MM4: Ok, that's it?

Post by Sebastian78 » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:57 am

gilesjp wrote:The update to version four is great. Sure MM is ugly, nothing new about that. However, as far as getting things done like tagging,reporting and organizing its the best out here and sounds great...."
MM needs to become "prettier" because at some point in time, you will have no tagging or organizing left to do and only actually play your music. That's when being "pretty" will become important and changing to a "prettier" player will become an option for many MM users.
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Re: MM4: Ok, that's it?

Post by rovingcowboy » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:06 am

lets not forget that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. 8)

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Re: MM4: Ok, that's it?

Post by Lowlander » Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:34 am

rovingcowboy wrote:beauty is in the eye of the beholder
Yep.

I'm wondering about DVD ripping too, I would assume it won't be included as most DVD's would require DRM circumvention to be ripped which is a legal minefield.
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Re: MM4: Ok, that's it?

Post by Sebastian78 » Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:39 pm

Lowlander wrote:
rovingcowboy wrote:beauty is in the eye of the beholder
Yep.

I'm wondering about DVD ripping too, I would assume it won't be included as most DVD's would require DRM circumvention to be ripped which is a legal minefield.
Off course it is, but no matter what way you look, there are a lot of...hmmm "whining and complaining" about the looks of MM. It's no big secret and there's no big elephant in the room. It's needs "tweeking" that's for sure.

Reg. dvd: DVD rippin IS legal in Norway if you rip copies of your own dvd's.....
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Re: MM4: Ok, that's it?

Post by Lowlander » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:02 pm

In some countries ripping is legal, but the circumvention of the DRM isn't. I believe that there are only few countries left where you're allowed to rip and circumvent DRM to do so DVD's you own.
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Re: MM4: Ok, that's it?

Post by rovingcowboy » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:44 am

it is legal too make a copy of any disk for preservation of your original disk in the usa, you just need to keep your original disk so you can have proof that you bought the disk.

but if you are caught with more then one copy of the disk they will consider that over the limit and possibly going to be sold.
and they will fine you 500,000 us dollars and possibly put you in jail for 5 to 10 yrs.

so don't make and sale any disks just keep a copy so you don't destory the original one by getting it stepped on at a party.
or the kid decides to try and shine it up with your belt buckle and scratches the .... out of the playing service. :D
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Re: MM4: Ok, that's it?

Post by Lowlander » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:26 am

I believe you're allowed to make a copy in the US, but not if you have to circumvent the DRM, that's illegal. This is the way the entertainment industry has secretly taken away that right.
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