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BMF
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More from same composer missing

Post by BMF » Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:08 am

Hello staff,

my headline already said it: i miss the function "more from same composer". You may have the intention to clear the menu which is okay as the idea. From my personal point of view you let entries that i never use (folder & my computer) and took away the "composer" which i the entry which i use the most. I know that will differ from user to user. So maybe you could make the menu customizable in the options?

I'd like to support the wish from another user that the node "composer" (or other nodes) will open a list in alphabetical order when it is clicked. To do this with a special option will be okay for me too.

Regards

bmf
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Re: More from same composer missing

Post by teodore » Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:38 am

I agree with that.
I also recall that since version 2104, there is no more wikipedia information associated with composers.

bye
MM5.0.0.2117 (2018.08.04) - MM4.1.21 - Windows 10 i7 8 Go
Lyrics : viewtopic.php?f=13&t=90710&p=448074

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Re: More from same composer missing

Post by BMF » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:58 am

Reading the entry of Teodore i remember that i saw the link to wikipedia too but forgot about it in the meantime. I found it a cool feature. Please bring it back :)

AND if you let the users choose to which wikipedia (english, french, german etc) it will be as cool as possible ;-).

greetings

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Re: More from same composer missing

Post by MiPi » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:41 am

Hi,

1) better support for Composers added as https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=14996
2) better support for Wiki description language - you can already change this language in view header menu "Choose different language", but it does not persist now, added as https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=14997

3) re artist/composer list in alphabetical order in media tree - you can already use "showAllNodes" sample script (in SampleScripts folder as mmip addon), which adds this functionality.

Thanks for your feedback.

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Re: More from same composer missing

Post by teodore » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:13 am

0014996: Add "More from same composer" and related Composer view with Wiki header

not fixed in 2117 for me (no wikipedia informations)

and now it seems that the function doesn't work properly for artists either
MM5.0.0.2117 (2018.08.04) - MM4.1.21 - Windows 10 i7 8 Go
Lyrics : viewtopic.php?f=13&t=90710&p=448074

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Re: More from same composer missing

Post by jiri » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:46 am

Thanks, that was a server problem, it's fixed now.

Jiri

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Re: More from same composer missing

Post by teodore » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:55 am

Wikipedia informations are fixed now for artists and composers
thanks
MM5.0.0.2117 (2018.08.04) - MM4.1.21 - Windows 10 i7 8 Go
Lyrics : viewtopic.php?f=13&t=90710&p=448074

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Re: More from same composer missing

Post by BMF » Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:52 pm

Hi there,

I was quite happy reading in the changelog that you have implemented the "find from same composer" that quickly. Installing the new version 2117 i got a somehow strange behaviour of the MM 5 ;-).

I took a track from the entire list (in Track view), clicked on it and chosed "find more from same composer". It was Johann Sebastian Bach by the way. Then the middle part of the program window changed. In the upper part there was the wikipedia entry for the composer (in english) and below a handful of tracks. there was a link asking "show all 1862 tracks". I clicked on it ....waiting a lot of time (way too long) and then a tracklist view opened with title, artist, album, length , bitrate and path. Bitrate and path weren't filled with information. But what made my jaw bones fall down was the artist field .... ALL entries were filled with the name of the composer. Blood pressure was rising .... fortunately MM 5 did not change the real tag information in the file. Though the properties panel said that (in MM5).

Did the same with a composer with less tracks (Aaron Copland). Only 46 tracks. The track list which appeared (very quickly) had NO artist information and a quite different selection of header entries ... Title, album, rating and length. This time there was all the information for length.

.... your turn now :-)


Regards from Berlin

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Re: More from same composer missing

Post by teodore » Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:24 pm

it's about the name of the composer in wikipedia.

I used to indicate the year of birth and death for composers in the tag (mainly for classical music).
It seems that this conflicts with the wikipedia label: double years.

https://ti1ca.com/j2hvl7gz-composerwiki ... 2.png.html

T
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Re: More from same composer missing

Post by BMF » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:55 pm

Good evening from Berlin,

opening the MM5 today after work i got the view with the the composer Johann Sebastian Bach AND with .... all the right informations in the artist field. What did not change is the instable way the columns are mixed together, when i choose 'more from same composer'.

Same behaviour with "more from same artist" too.

When i have got more than one artist in the properties the "more from same artist' functions shows all in a row. Up to now only the last entry is taken to build a new list. MM4 separates the different entries in several 'more from same' lines. That's what i would expect here too ;-).

be well

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Re: More from same composer missing

Post by MiPi » Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:17 am

BMF wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:52 pm
I took a track from the entire list (in Track view), clicked on it and chosed "find more from same composer". It was Johann Sebastian Bach by the way. Then the middle part of the program window changed. In the upper part there was the wikipedia entry for the composer (in english) and below a handful of tracks. there was a link asking "show all 1862 tracks". I clicked on it ....waiting a lot of time (way too long) and then a tracklist view opened with title, artist, album, length , bitrate and path. Bitrate and path weren't filled with information. But what made my jaw bones fall down was the artist field .... ALL entries were filled with the name of the composer. Blood pressure was rising .... fortunately MM 5 did not change the real tag information in the file. Though the properties panel said that (in MM5).
It probably displayed Online tracks from online DB, not your local files, that is why bitrate and path were empty and fetching took long time, and because we cannot differentiate artist and composer for online data, Bach was filled to artist only. Will fix "Find more from same...", so it will jump to local data, it is bug now.

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Re: More from same composer missing

Post by MiPi » Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:50 am

"More from same..." for multivalues tracked as: https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=15016
Thanks for reporting.

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Re: More from same composer missing

Post by BMF » Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:53 pm

MiPi wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:50 am
"More from same..." for multivalues tracked as: https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=15016
Thanks for reporting.
Feedback: It seems to work now (build 2110) :)
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