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Slimdevices Squeezebox / Squeezecenter Support (Plugin) or D

Post by danyal » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:40 am

Mediamonkey is really great for a large collection of music which is exactly why I use it. But as of late I listen to most of my music via a squeezebox + home audio system. It would be great if I could play music via Mediamonkey and have it play on my squeezebox. I don't want it playing in both places or anything like that. I just want to be able to use MM to manage my media.

I don't think this would be too hard to implement. Basically each song in squeezecenter has a songId. If MM could scan the squeezecenter database and retrieve those songIds and store them in its own database for each song, all it would need to do is send the songId via CLI to squeezecenter when a user selects a song to play. The squeezecenter db could be re-scanned from time to time...

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Re: Slimdevices Squeezebox / Squeezecenter Support (Plugin) or D

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Re: Slimdevices Squeezebox / Squeezecenter Support (Plugin) or D

Post by botijo » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:40 am

Does the Squeezebox support UPNP servers? I am working on one right now. Maybe you could try it.

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Re: Slimdevices Squeezebox / Squeezecenter Support (Plugin) or D

Post by deusdiabolus » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:14 am

I would like to see this happen also, because I was planning to buy a Squeezebox in the future and would hope to be able to use MediaMonkey with it....
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Re: Slimdevices Squeezebox / Squeezecenter Support (Plugin) or D

Post by zoomster » Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:10 am

I have benn using Mediamonkey for a while now and I am very impressed.
I am equally impressed with the Squeezebox, which I got about a month ago.
It would be so nice to get my music (flacs mostly) play on the monkey and
on to the Squeezebox which is connected to my hifi.
Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Slimdevices Squeezebox / Squeezecenter Support (Plugin) or D

Post by sg60 » Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:59 am

I absolutely support this. MM is my main music app but I use a Squeezebox to play music through my stereo. Unfortunately I can't use my MM dynamic playlists (Autoplaylists) through the Squeezebox. An integration of the Squeezebox and MM would be an excellent addition to what is already a great application.

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Re: Slimdevices Squeezebox / Squeezecenter Support (Plugin) or D

Post by Buck » Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:11 pm

OOOO! OOOO! Me too! Me too! As long as it can be direct control of the SqueezeCenter and not simply a playlist creation utility. I THINK SqueezeCenter can already use playlists created by MM and WMP etc. Nice suggestion.

Later

Buck

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Re: Slimdevices Squeezebox / Squeezecenter Support (Plugin) or D

Post by chrisistina » Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:45 pm

PLEEEEEEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN:)

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Re: Slimdevices Squeezebox / Squeezecenter Support (Plugin) or D

Post by Paul van Ingen » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:22 am

Integration of MM into Squeezebox Center is very much required .. anyone ?

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Re: Slimdevices Squeezebox / Squeezecenter Support (Plugin) or D

Post by Simon Chick » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:18 am

I'll second that.

MM is still the best interface, but Squeezebox is a better way to move the music to the hifi than sending it through the PC the way MM has to.

MM + SC = heaven

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Re: Slimdevices Squeezebox / Squeezecenter Support (Plugin) or D

Post by Robbie 123 » Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:49 am

I really would like to express my support for the suggestion to play MM over The Squeezebox Duet. In other words the Squeezebox Player (which has an excellent D/A converter, connects wirelessly to my amplifier) sources the MM app. and becomes a slave if you like, without using the Squuezebox controller at that moment. So MM outputs the audio-files via the WirelessLan to the Squeezebox Player and not to the local PC's audio-card.

I believe that MM provides a superior User Interface and is extremely flexibel. So at the moment I use MM to manage my Music files (ripping, adding scores etc.) and I create playlists which I export again to my networked Music database. Then the Squeezebox server is able to 'see' these playlists (after a database rebuild) and I can play them using the Squeezebox Controller. This is a rather ackward approach and has the big disadvantage that I am restricted to only playing the playlist 'as is' . I cannot edit/maintain these playlists on the fly (i.e. when using the Squeezebox Controller). (I haven't even tried to explain my wife how this works !)

Does anyone know of a more efficient solution to my problem or would it be possible to build such a feature in newer versions of MM. (I would upgrade to the Gold-version rite away or be prepared to buy a dedicated MM wireless media extender, such as the Squeezebox Player ).
I am not technical but hope that I have been able to explain my frustation/problem. I welcome any feedback on this topic.
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Robbie

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Re: Slimdevices Squeezebox / Squeezecenter Support (Plugin) or D

Post by the nightfly » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:53 am

I'm confused about how this would work. I'm looking at adding a Squeezebox Duet to my audio system, so I can access the music on my computer (down the hall in the library). I thought the whole point of the Duet was to provide a hand-held controller to do that. If you are using a MM plug-in, wouldn't you need to control the Duet's playback from the music server computer, which might be located far away from the audio system? I certainly wouldn't want to have to start up each playlist in the library and then run back down the hall to the family room before the music starts!

Or are you talking about a scenario where your music collection is being kept in a shared folder on your main computer, and you are using MM on, say, a netbook in the family room to access the collection and direct it to the Squeezebox player?

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Re: Slimdevices Squeezebox / Squeezecenter Support (Plugin) or D

Post by Guest » Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:33 am

http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21124

Script to make MediaMonkey tell SqueezeCenter to play whatever song it's playing. I've taken this script, edited it a bit, and also set up a SqueezeCenter plugin so that my clients (just SoftSqueeze clients in my setup, but SqueezeBoxes should work too) can pause/resume and track forward/backward, always keeping SqueezeCenter in sync with MediaMonkey.

My music server is a PC in a corner of my living room, the sound card output is hooked into my receiver. (I run a SoftSqueeze client on the other PCs in the house.) My next plan is to hook up an IR reader to the server PC so I can control playback with my universal remote.

Also, I'm planning to get a netbook and have it in my living room, that way I can Remote Desktop into the music server and have full control over MediaMonkey.

This is all finally coming together and it's pretty sweet!

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Re: Slimdevices Squeezebox / Squeezecenter Support (Plugin) or D

Post by Simon Chick » Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:47 am

In response to the Nightfly, I think the answer is yes.

Where people already control their music playing using MM as the interface on a PC, but prefer to use a Squeezebox product as the actual music player, the nearest equivalent is to use Squeezecenter on the PC instead. It is a much inferior interface compared to MM, both in convenience and feature count.

If you only want to use the Controller or Classic interface for Squeezebox control, then I don't think this is of interest to you.

For me it is enormously interesting, as at present I use MM on several PCs, to play music from a centralised library and library database on a NAS.

My primary use for it is to play through my hifi, so I have a networked PC next to the hifi, using the TV as the monitor and a wireless keyboard. This way I can sit on the sofa and use MM to select music to play on the hifi.

The problem is that it is quite troublesome to get a bit perfect low jitter audio stream out of the PC to send to a proper DAC.

I really want to use a Duet or Classic to bypass the PC completely, but previously I have been reluctant to do so, because I did not want to lose the quality interface that MM offers.

This plugin, which I intend to try as soon as I have a Squeezebox (next week I hope), seems to offer the convenience of MM together with the technical quality of Squeezebox, or to put it another way, it avoids the poor interface of Squeezecenter and the poor audio implementation in a PC.

Sorry, that got very longwinded, but I hope it makes sense.

Simon

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Re: Slimdevices Squeezebox / Squeezecenter Support (Plugin) or D

Post by Robbie123 » Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:40 am

the nightfly wrote:I'm confused about how this would work. I'm looking at adding a Squeezebox Duet to my audio system, so I can access the music on my computer (down the hall in the library). I thought the whole point of the Duet was to provide a hand-held controller to do that. If you are using a MM plug-in, wouldn't you need to control the Duet's playback from the music server computer, which might be located far away from the audio system? I certainly wouldn't want to have to start up each playlist in the library and then run back down the hall to the family room before the music starts!

Or are you talking about a scenario where your music collection is being kept in a shared folder on your main computer, and you are using MM on, say, a netbook in the family room to access the collection and direct it to the Squeezebox player?
That's correct; The music collection is kept on a network (NAS) drive. I can conveniently manipulate my music from the coach wirelessly on a netbook using MM. So far so good but unfortunately, at the moment the MM app sends its output (by default) to the local (audio card on the ) PC. This is a problem because I need a physical wire from the netbook's sound-card through the room to the Home audio system. I would like to be able to direct the MM output (over the network) to the Squeezebox player. (which connects on its turn to my amplifier). Thus avoiding the nasty wire and a most likely inferior PC sound-card.

Just to add, the easiest solution might be to make the MM output digitally available as a stream on the (local) network (as a virtual private radiostation, if you like). If that's done I only need to tune in to that IP address on the SqueezeCenter (as if I was selecting a standard Internet Radio Station - this is part of the standard SqueezeCenter functionality). The SqueezeCenter which will forward the content to a (or multiple) Squeezebox player(s). Clean and simple !! It would further work on any other IP Mediaplayer platform. I can even see further options to make my own private Internet Radio available on the Internet and share with family, lovers and friends.I hope this explains by suggestion in more detail and this is incorporated in a near future release.

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