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Re: Synchronized playback multiroom [#7090]

Post by Lowlander » Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:54 pm

Multiple players is something that may be added in a future release.
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Re: Synchronized playback multiroom [#7090]

Post by BLueSS » Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:55 pm

Lowlander wrote:Multiple players is something that may be added in a future release.
Is there a request thread or feature request in a system that I can go and add support/upvotes for?

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Re: Synchronized playback multiroom [#7090]

Post by Lowlander » Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:57 pm

Yes, this thread.
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Re: Synchronized playback multiroom [#7090]

Post by acraigbray » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:01 am

Just wanted to throw in another vote for this. Would be an amazing feature. I did some testing this morning and I was able to take control of my MediaMonkey library using MediaMonkey Remote and could use the remote to play through a single DLNA device at a time. This is pretty nice on it's own but it would be the next level to be able to "Play To" multiple DLNA outputs at once. If anybody has figured out any workarounds in the meantime I'd be interested to hear, as well.

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Re: Synchronized playback multiroom [#7090]

Post by mwei » Fri Dec 26, 2014 9:32 am

I would like MediaMonkey Android app (at least) to push to a Chromecast.... Ideally also to multiroom Sonos and/or Samsung.

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Re: Synchronized playback multiroom [#7090]

Post by mwei@gmx.net » Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:50 am

Multiple Chromecasts same music would be GREAT!

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Re: Synchronized playback multiroom [#7090]

Post by nauip » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:10 pm

This would be awesome.

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Re: Synchronized playback multiroom [#7090]

Post by Mcrackn » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:34 am

Upvoting this feature.

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Re: Synchronized playback multiroom [#7090]

Post by David Hillman » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:52 pm

Not sure if anyone cares about this thread anymore, as it has been dead for a long time, but chiming in to add another upvote, and also a workaround suggestion for acraigbray and anyone else.

I have a bunch of Yamaha Musiccast devices in my house -- a few AV receivers, and wireless speakers like the WX-030. Musiccast, if you are not familiar with it, has an app that you can use to control music playback to any device, and also to configure the devices into any combination for synchronized multiroom operation. If it had half the functionality of Media Monkey, I wouldn't be here, 'cause I wouldn't need Media Monkey. But alas, Yamaha's software is abysmal, both in design and execution.

One thing all these Yamahas are, though, is DLNA-compliant. So I found -- to my surprise -- that I was able to send playback from Media Monkey on my computer to any one of those Musiccast devices ( right-click on song -> 'choose player' ). What really shocked me, though, was that I could treat that DLNA input as a regular source, and link whichever Yamaha I selected to any/all of the others for multiroom playback.

Very cool... at least in theory. Like the saying goes, practice is different from theory.

The problems with this approach include;

a) the Yamahas are terribly unreliable, largely because Yamaha elected to implement their own 802.11 wireless interface, instead of using one of the hundreds of superior options. They drop off my LAN frequently and with no rhyme nor reason. If you can wire all your devices, you'll be way better off.

b) I have to use two apps for control, and even then, still have only partial remote control. I use Media Monkey Remote to control playback, and then the Musiccast app to control which rooms are linked. Unfortunately, Media Monkey Remote doesn't support the rightclick->'choose player' feature, so that has to be done from the desktop. Also obviously, the Media Monkey Remote Server has to be running.

c) Yamaha's multiroom sync code is broken. I've reported the bugs to them, but they don't care. It will play a song or two, sometimes three, successfully... but then will stutter and breakup and generally become unlistenable. It's not a bandwidth issue, it's a protocol bug, and they are just too lazy or incompetent to fix it ( I can play 5 **different** songs to 5 devices without any problems... but playing the same song to 5 devices doesn't work. )

d) Basically, the whole setup is quite Goldbergian, and should be unnecessary. It would be so much better if Media Monkey could support this mode of operation. Note to developers: if I can be of any assistance there, just let me know.

So anyway, there's a way to accomplish multiroom synchronized playback from Media Monkey. It isn't pretty, but it can be done. I think the same idea should work with any DLNA-compliant multiroom-capable devices, and if you're going to try, I would recommend using anything EXCEPT YAMAHA. Seriously, Yamaha's software is terrible, and their support is worse. Caveat emptor. Good luck.

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Re: Synchronized playback multiroom [#7090]

Post by Lowlander » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:27 pm

MediaMonkey 5 can do Chromecast (MMA already can) and Chromecast can do multiroom. Besides Chromecast dongles there are various hardware manufacturers that have Chromecast capabilities build in.
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Re: Synchronized playback multiroom [#7090]

Post by Media_Allen » Wed May 16, 2018 1:06 pm

An alternative to Sonos is the (Denon) Heos product. It does not require a "hub" making the buy-in lower, but it does need either local media or DLNA. They have a "CD replacement" product without an amplifier, for use in your main system for an even lower buy-in.

Synchronizing music playback in many places, while streaming from a common source across a network is more complicated than a piece of software. It involves buffering and clocking to overcome network traffic and latency, which is why Sonos establishes its own network.

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Re: Synchronized playback multiroom [#7090]

Post by Lowlander » Wed May 16, 2018 2:53 pm

Chromecast is one of the best candidates as DLNA is hard to manage across multiple devices. Many hardware manufacturers have it build in, but also is available as a little dongle for any hardware that doesn't. This means you're not tied into any specific hardware ecosystem (other than Chromecast, but many devices also support other technologies like DLNA and Apple).

MMA already supports Chromecasting and MM5 will too.


(PS. Onkyo will add Sonos support to select equipment soon).
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