Lyrics syncing in iOS 10 [#13784]

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Lyrics syncing in iOS 10 [#13784]

Post by outlandis » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:28 pm

Am I the only one who is having problems with the lyrics syncing in iOS 10?

I synced a bunch of songs which I know have lyrics yet I cannot see the lyrics in any of my iOS devices.

Am I missing something. Lyrics worked fine in iOS 9...

Thanks

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Re: Lyrics syncing in iOS 10

Post by Lowlander » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:11 am

Which version of MediaMonkey, iTunes and exact version of iOS10 are you using?
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outlandis

Re: Lyrics syncing in iOS 10

Post by outlandis » Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:02 pm

Iphone 7 with all ios versions 10.0.1 through 10.1
Itunes 12.5.1.21
MM 4.14.1813

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Re: Lyrics syncing in iOS 10

Post by Ludek » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:55 pm

Hi, I checked this quickly and the note in the code is:
// Starting from iOS8 lyrics are not transferred via BPLISTs, but read from tag / looked up by iOS8 itself (see issues #12678, #12701)

Looking into Mantis:
http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=12678
-- lyrics were eliminated from file metadata updates

http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=12701
-- lyrics were eliminated entirely because of http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view. ... 701#c42420

Tomorrow, I am going to try with iOS10 and possibly re-enable it to see whether iOS10 would accept it again or not.

EDIT: I have just tried to see lyrics in my iOS 10 device and it is there, but you need to scroll down the screen and there is a row:
Lyrics .... Show
And upon tapping the Show the lyrics text is shown bellow.

outlandis

Re: Lyrics syncing in iOS 10

Post by outlandis » Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:25 pm

I cannot get the show lyrics option to show up on my iOS device. I figured it is because there is a new way that iOS was looking for the lyrics and it's not seeing them.
I have an iPad, iPhone and Ipod Touch and it is the same way on all of them.

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Re: Lyrics syncing in iOS 10

Post by Ludek » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:58 am

OK, just done some tests and results are:

iOS10 also don't accept BPLISTs with lyrics metadata during transfer (fails to send manifest) -- i.e. #12701 is still valid
But:
- with Music app only some of the tracks has lyrics (e.g. Moby, 18, In My Hearth), but many tracks fails to show the lyrics (e.g. Sting, Brand New Day, Brand New Day)
- with Cesium music app _all_ songs are showing lyrics

Note that the Cesium app can show also some addition info like grouping and comment ( http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=13564 )
Also star rating is still possible with Cesium (no longer possible with the Apple's Music app starting from iOS10)

So workaround seems to use Cesium music player .

outlandis

Re: Lyrics syncing in iOS 10

Post by outlandis » Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:33 am

So am I to assume this will not be fixed and the only way to have the lyrics display is by using a 3rd party (Cesium) music player?

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Re: Lyrics syncing in iOS 10

Post by Ludek » Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:01 am

Unfortunatelly it seems so (unless Apple fix it in the default iOS 10 Music app).

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Re: Lyrics syncing in iOS 10

Post by outlandis » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:05 pm

Just as an update, if I attempt to export the playlist from MM into iTunes, the lyrics work fine. Seems that iTunes must be correctly doing whatever it does to the BPLIST files.
I understand the complications with trying to reverse engineer a sync process but it's not really an option to use another music player for be because of how well the native music player works with CarPlay.
If there is anything that would help to get the lyrics working with the native player I'd be happy to do whatever I can.

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Re: Lyrics syncing in iOS 10

Post by Ludek » Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:46 am

Hi, you seem to be right.

I re-tested it and tracks synced using iTunes shows the lyrics in the Music app.
It had to be a test error when I tested it lastly.

So yes, it is about reverse engineering of iTunes sync now, tracked as:
http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=13784

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Re: Lyrics syncing in iOS 10 [#13784]

Post by Ludek » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:13 pm

FYI: It is fixed in build 1820

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Re: Lyrics syncing in iOS 10 [#13784]

Post by markmai86 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:21 pm

Ludek wrote:FYI: It is fixed in build 1820
Where or when can we download this build/fix?

I can only download the 1813 on the website

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Re: Lyrics syncing in iOS 10 [#13784]

Post by Lowlander » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:25 pm

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Re: Lyrics syncing in iOS 10 [#13784]

Post by otulandis » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:10 am

Seems like the lyrics syncing from MM to iOS is broken again.
I'm not quite sure when it broke because I only realize that it's broken when I go to query the lyrics of a song with the music player app and they are not there.
First thing I then do is check other songs and when I see multiple songs without lyrics syncing then I make sure that MM has lyrics.
After finally having the time to check it out, I realize that all 3 of my iOS devices (iPhone, Ipad pro, and ipod touch) on iOS 11 do not have lyrics synced.

Erased all the music and started over to make sure it wasn't an issue with something I was doing and verified with fresh sync on all devices that lyrics do not sync.
Unfortunately, I can't be much more specific, but it seems pretty widespread on all my devices so it might be easily reproducible.

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Re: Lyrics syncing in iOS 10 [#13784]

Post by Ludek » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:03 pm

Thanks for reporting, re-opened http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=13784 to look into it.

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