Genre is a real pain!( In general, not because of MM )
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Genre is a real pain!( In general, not because of MM )
First Amazon doesn't have it, so you have to look it up manually on CDDB or allmusic.
Second, I have been trying to keep my albums grouped by genre, and keep the number of genres small. So, Dance contains techno, electronica, trance, etc.
Third, it would be nice if all the albums for an artist were together. But some artists just won't stay in their genre, they are all over the place.
Fourth, the difference between Rock and Pop is so blurred, I wonder if there is any point to keeping them separate.
Anyone got a system that just works?
Second, I have been trying to keep my albums grouped by genre, and keep the number of genres small. So, Dance contains techno, electronica, trance, etc.
Third, it would be nice if all the albums for an artist were together. But some artists just won't stay in their genre, they are all over the place.
Fourth, the difference between Rock and Pop is so blurred, I wonder if there is any point to keeping them separate.
Anyone got a system that just works?
BTW, this is what I am using for Auto-Organize now:
F:\!Music\!<Genre>\<Album Artist>\<Album>\<Track#>-<Title>$If(<Artist>=<Album Artist>,,-{<Artist>})
This only puts artist in if it is different than album artist, and puts it in {} so that it is easier to parse in later if needed. Just using - as separators doesn't work in many cases because many songs have them as part of the title.
F:\!Music\!<Genre>\<Album Artist>\<Album>\<Track#>-<Title>$If(<Artist>=<Album Artist>,,-{<Artist>})
This only puts artist in if it is different than album artist, and puts it in {} so that it is easier to parse in later if needed. Just using - as separators doesn't work in many cases because many songs have them as part of the title.
Yeah, this is truly a challenge. To deal with the subgenre issue, I tag all my tracks in the ??? - ?????? format where the first three question marks represent the supergenre, and everything to the right of the hyphen represents the subgenre:
Etc. Then, using Pablo's magic nodes I can create a super genre node that takes the first three letters of the genre which can then be expanded to show the subgenre (pending the addition of a little extra functionality in the script ).
The advantage of this system is that you end up with a very limited set of supergenres, but as many subgenres as you wish. And there is always the - General subgenre for when you just can't figure out if you're listening to Gypsy or Dixie Jazz. Another advantage is that you can use auto playlist and select on the first three letters to choose a supergenre, and exclude some specific sub genres.
Obviously this is a hack workaround for the lack of a sub genre tag, but I find it works pretty well. There is of course the issue of multi genre tracks, or different countries of origin (french rap, anyone?).
@JMmaver, what does the '!' achieve in the auto-organize mask?
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ELE - Trance
ELE - Drum and Bass
ELE - Downtempo
POP - Tart (there goes Britney)
RCK - Hard Rock
RCK - Heavy Metal
The advantage of this system is that you end up with a very limited set of supergenres, but as many subgenres as you wish. And there is always the - General subgenre for when you just can't figure out if you're listening to Gypsy or Dixie Jazz. Another advantage is that you can use auto playlist and select on the first three letters to choose a supergenre, and exclude some specific sub genres.
Obviously this is a hack workaround for the lack of a sub genre tag, but I find it works pretty well. There is of course the issue of multi genre tracks, or different countries of origin (french rap, anyone?).
@JMmaver, what does the '!' achieve in the auto-organize mask?
Now thats a good idea!sadao wrote:Code: Select all
ELE - Trance ELE - Drum and Bass ELE - Downtempo POP - Tart (there goes Britney) RCK - Hard Rock RCK - Heavy Metal
I think ill do something similar, probably use the Genre tag for the super-genre and a custom field for the sub-genre. that way it stays nice and generic when it gets to my ipod but is still nice and granular for my main library. It will make it easier to sort out the data if MM ever add sub-genres to the database too.
Thank you!
One tagging issue down, only "multiple artist per track", "album year/track year", "album rating", "artist rating" and putting in moods and tempo's to go lol
@jmaver i also use '_' to achieve the same effect.
I generally use the super genre in the genre names. Like hard rock, classic rock, punk rock, rock rock & roll. And even Rock en Español and Dutch Rock. This way if I search for rock all variants are displayed. Also the same goes for when I look for Dutch music. As I also have Dutch Pop, etc.
This looks estatically a little better I guess.
There have been requests to be able to use super genre's with sub genre's.
This looks estatically a little better I guess.
There have been requests to be able to use super genre's with sub genre's.
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