Genre Finder 5.0 - Updated 05/08/2012

[aprzybylo]

Not sure if it's a bug. I never have any problem using it this way. I assume they use always same separator inside the code and the value you set is just for GUI

[trixmoto]

Yeah, but if you use " + " as the separator and have the artist "Sting + The Police; Something" then MM correctly knows that you have two artists; "Sting" and "The Police; Something". But then when I ask MM for the artist name they tell me it's "Sting; The Police; Something", so I incorrectly think that there are three artists.

I think I've fixed the code to work with other separators (such as " + ") but I'd like to hear back from the developers before I release it.

[trixmoto]

New version (4.8.) is now available to download from my website. Changes include...

- Fixed blacklist not working correctly
- Fixed multi-value separator not working correctly

[T-Jay]

Where is the actual whitelist located???

According to the log file, I have so much crap in the whitelist I need to expunge it.....

Could someone post a clean minimal whitelist please?

For trixmoto: Could you add an option to clean the whitelist (like reset it to it's original status - maybe reset it to a clean standard whitelist included with the script....)

Thanks....

[trixmoto]

The whitelist is defined in the "Lists" sub settings page under the "GenreFinder Settings". I can't tell you what you think your genres should be! Some other people have posted the lists that they use in this thread though, so you could use one of those.

[aprzybylo]

I tried new 4.8 version. Both problems have been fixed. Thanks a lot. Great work.

[T-Jay]

The minimal Genre lists should be the same as every media player software ever created..... there seems to be a set list that they all use which covers all music types.

I don't understand why Last.FM even allows custom Genre tagging... they should have set it up so you choose from a set list (as found in ID3 tag lists) and that's that.

Maybe if a standard ID3 genre list was used for a whitelist, it could check that against what last.fm finds. if it's not covered in the whitelist... tough.

I've been trying to sort out my library for 4 days now, and with all the ridiculous tags allowed by last.fm it seems almost impossible to get the correct tags for the songs....

My brain is fried ......

[netphoenix]

I have a sizeable database and am finally getting to end of my re-organizing efforts. Having installed Genre Finder a few days ago I just now spent some time with it. It has worked perfect for me! My goal was to utilize Genre Finder to drill down to the moods, genre's and decade on a 'per song' basis. Although Last.fm has a real tag-mess on their hands, I was able to take advantage of it users opinions of songs. I created two whitelists for both mood and genre/style based on AMGs use. No fuzzy matching allowed. This permitted me to populate the Mood field and toss song-genre's/styles into the Quality field. I also watched for decade entries and placed them into one of the custom fields.

It's certainly not a perfect answer, but I'm not screwing with my primary Genre/Style/Decades entries which are based on Artist (thereby lacking specificity). Now if last.fm would simply fix their tagging mess....

Thanks Trix!
-Chris

[trixmoto]

Great, I'm glad you found the script useful!

[tim]

Is there any way to do a translation without excluding things that aren't a translation target

So for instance I have:

White: Kraut Rock=Krautrock

But then this doesn't let values through that are not krautrock.

All I want to do is allow all values, but to merge some of them together and I think I must be missing something

[trixmoto]

Yeah, try... "*+Kraut Rock=Krautrock"

[tim]

Thanks!

Still having issues though. Firstly, the translation doesn't actually seem to be happening so I still get 'Kraut Rock' returned.

Secondly, less genres are being included than should be the case. For instance with no rules in place I would get 3 (non Krautrock) genres returned for a given band. After adding the Kraut Rock rule I only get one, even though there's no reason I can think of for there to be less

I've turned logging on to see if I could work out why but can't find the log anywhere. Where might it be?

[trixmoto]

The logfile is in your %TEMP% directory and should explain what's going on.

[tim]

Ok, here is the output with no rules

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16:30:51 Runmode:artists
16:30:51 Cache cleared...
16:30:51 SQL:SELECT DISTINCT GenreName FROM Genres WHERE UsageCount>0 AND GenreName!='' ORDER BY UsageCount
16:30:51 Genre has no list (all values will be accepted)
16:30:51 Auto-translate...
16:30:51 Genre: 
16:30:51 Suggestions...
16:30:51 Multiple values...
16:30:51 Artist seed field is Artist (ArtistName)...
16:30:51 @http://ws.audioscrobbler.com/2.0/?method=artist.getTopTags&api_key=6cfe51c9bf7e77d6449e63ac0db2ac24&artist=%21%21%21
16:30:51 Genre 'Electronic' is acceptable
16:30:51 Genre 'Indie' is acceptable
16:30:51 Genre 'Dance' is acceptable
16:30:51 !!! - Me And Guliani Down By The Schoolyard (A True Story): Genre=Electronic; Indie; Dance
16:30:51 Clearing up...
16:30:51 Seconds:0.01
16:30:51 Queries:1
16:30:51 Sec/Query:0.01
16:30:51 Confirmation...
16:30:52 (Cancelled)

this works as I expect, and I get the top three genres. but let's say I want to add a translation so Indie -> Indie Rock

here is the output with just a single translation

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16:32:09 Runmode:artists
16:32:09 Cache cleared...
16:32:09 SQL:SELECT DISTINCT GenreName FROM Genres WHERE UsageCount>0 AND GenreName!='' ORDER BY UsageCount
16:32:09 SQL:SELECT DISTINCT GenreName FROM Genres WHERE UsageCount>0 AND GenreName!='' ORDER BY UsageCount
16:32:09 Genre whitelist: Indie=Indie Rock
16:32:09 Auto-translate...
16:32:09 Genre: 
16:32:09 Suggestions...
16:32:09 Multiple values...
16:32:09 Artist seed field is Artist (ArtistName)...
16:32:09 @http://ws.audioscrobbler.com/2.0/?method=artist.getTopTags&api_key=6cfe51c9bf7e77d6449e63ac0db2ac24&artist=%21%21%21
16:32:09 Genre 'Electronic' is not in whitelist
16:32:09 Genre 'Indie' translated to 'Indie Rock'
16:32:09 Genre 'Dance' is not in whitelist
16:32:09 !!! - Me And Guliani Down By The Schoolyard (A True Story): Genre=Indie Rock
16:32:09 Clearing up...
16:32:09 Seconds:0.01
16:32:09 Queries:1
16:32:09 Sec/Query:0.01
16:32:09 Confirmation...
16:32:10 (Cancelled)

So it seems the * allows any value I've already used as a genre, rather than just ANY value. This is still ok, I don't really mind defining an entire genre list beforehand but was just checking if there was a way to avoid this. also now i know about the logs i can check what is being excluded even if I have translations

[trixmoto]

Yes, "*" is the automatic whitelist, which means all of your current values.