This is Ridiculous -- Old files on Rescan are not removed

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This is Ridiculous -- Old files on Rescan are not removed

Post by mpanwar » Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:16 am

Come on guys!!

I moved to MM 4.1 (bad mistake).

I re-scanned a folder that I had re-named. Say from Vocal to Vocals 's' added.

In the past a re-scan would list all old files and ask to remove them.

This is missing now.

The old files show up as Ghosted in the library.

Why????? How do u remove old files.... Why did this option disappear ?
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Re: This is Ridiculous -- Old files on Rescan are not remove

Post by nohitter151 » Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:16 pm

Options > Library > Remove unavailable items (checked)
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Re: This is Ridiculous -- Old files on Rescan are not remove

Post by Darryl_Gittins » Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:48 pm

You could also open the "dead links" node under "Files to Edit" and then delete everything found there.

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Re: This is Ridiculous -- Old files on Rescan are not remove

Post by mpanwar » Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:05 pm

The new Media Monkey for Windows has two serious bugs in my view:

1) upon re-scan of a folder or set of folders where there may be name or path changes, Media Monkey DOES NOT always provide the option to remove missing files. In fact it seems to get stuck in a "there are background tasks .. terminate them?" if you try and close it .. eventually forcing you to close the program since it stops responding. The previous version always listed the missing files and let you remove them from the library.

2) The STUPID preview of album art is re-generated each time you come up with new ways to look at your library.

For example lets say you have a folder all tagged correctly with Genre: Punk, Artist: Clash, Album: London Calling, Year:1979

Now when you search for Genre:Punk .... it will take some time to create the Preview for your album (London Calling). Wonderful.
This is how the old MM did it too.

However, when you search on another day with say: Artist:Clash ... it will again take time to generate the preview for your album(s) .. even the ones that were indexed previously .. under Genre:Punk.

Once you have the preview for a album it should be used for all further searches for the same album like the old Media Monkey did.

Who was on your test team? Please fix these two pressing issues.
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Re: This is Ridiculous -- Old files on Rescan are not remove

Post by nohitter151 » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:45 am

mpanwar wrote:The new Media Monkey for Windows has two serious bugs in my view:

1) upon re-scan of a folder or set of folders where there may be name or path changes, Media Monkey DOES NOT always provide the option to remove missing files. In fact it seems to get stuck in a "there are background tasks .. terminate them?" if you try and close it .. eventually forcing you to close the program since it stops responding. The previous version always listed the missing files and let you remove them from the library.
It still does this. I have just confirmed it with MM version 4.1.0.1693
mpanwar wrote:2) The STUPID preview of album art is re-generated each time you come up with new ways to look at your library.
Just tested but the art is there instantly if I do a genre search then an artist search for someone in that same genre.
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Re: This is Ridiculous -- Old files on Rescan are not remove

Post by mpanwar » Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:49 am

How big is your library?

I have confirmed that the "removing missing files" does not show up when I, for example, rename a HD from say M5 to M6 and re-scan. It hangs up after re-scanning (on this instance there were 10k+ audio files). The only way to remove or the quick way to remove was to go to list view (text with pathname) and search for old M5 and delete all ghosted items.

And even though I have my MM Library and the meta data album art directory in RAM: (4GB RAM disk) and have manually gone through and laboriously scrolled through the entire library to generate album art preview, 50% of the time MM takes a while to create the album art preview when I search. If I use the media tree option it is fine. But not when I add a search item to the search box. The previous version had no such issues.

O well. Try some stress testing with a large database.

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Re: This is Ridiculous -- Old files on Rescan are not remove

Post by Lowlander » Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:04 am

I don't think it prompts on removed hard drives. MediaMonkey treats this differently (not shown in Dead Links either) as some users use portable drives that may not always be connected. Dead Links (and the scanning prompt I presume) are only shown for files not found on connected (available) hard drives.
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Re: This is Ridiculous -- Old files on Rescan are not remove

Post by nohitter151 » Thu Mar 06, 2014 2:45 pm

mpanwar wrote:How big is your library?
For the test is was a library of about 4500.
mpanwar wrote: I have confirmed that the "removing missing files" does not show up when I, for example, rename a HD from say M5 to M6 and re-scan. It hangs up after re-scanning (on this instance there were 10k+ audio files). The only way to remove or the quick way to remove was to go to list view (text with pathname) and search for old M5 and delete all ghosted items.
As lowlander said this is intentional in order to prevent accidental removing of library files when an external hard drive is removed.
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Re: This is Ridiculous -- Old files on Rescan are not remove

Post by mpanwar » Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:09 pm

Sorry for my FRENCH 4500 ??????????????

U kidding me?

Really 4500 ...

Start with 100000 ....... audio files or say 10K folders ...

Please

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Re: This is Ridiculous -- Old files on Rescan are not remove

Post by tjcorreia » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:37 pm

I have the same issue. Sad that 3 years after the first report on this bug, there is still no solution.
I'm using MM 4.1.16.1836

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