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year / date inconsistencies [F3998 RC3]

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:42 am
by caddy
in the track properties there is a box original year , and this coresponds to the drop down column option original date

will these little inconsistencies be addressed in future releases ?


there are a few more year/ date mismaches that i refer to in the post


http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22582

cheers caddy..

Year / date inconsistencies

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:21 pm
by rusty
Caddy,

With respect to the inconsistencies that you originally brought up:
Year: Used in Track browser columns & nodes
Date: Used in Track Properties and Column headers

I'm not really certain that we should make a change or not, since the track browser and column nodes would be kind of useless if they were grouped by Date. The only reasonable alternative might be to label the fields as 'date' but only use the year portion of the date.

With respect to Original Year/Original date, we should just make them consistent.

Let me know what you think.

-Rusty

Re: Year / date inconsistencies

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:47 pm
by MusicBringer
rusty wrote:... alternative might be to label the fields as 'date' but only use the year portion of the date.
Hello Rusty, I would like to see the heading for the field that displays the Year to read Year (not Date).

Date, to me, suggests the date of a Concert, or date of a Recording. Whereas Year is for when an album was issued. :)

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:22 pm
by Teknojnky
agreed:

year = 2007

date = 11/20/2007

year/date

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:36 pm
by rusty
But the field actually supports dates! (per the ID3 spec).

-Rusty

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:26 pm
by Teknojnky
Ok, then put date as the field name :)

Re: year/date

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:01 am
by nojac
As both the Date and the Original Year field actually supports dates, you will have to change the field popup info of Date from "Year this track was recorded" to "Date this track was recorded". The Original Year field should be renamed to Original Date, and the field popup info also from "Year...." to "Date...."

I must admit that I was not aware that these fields actually supports dates. So all my tracks are tagged with Year.

It might be a good idea to let the user choose between displaying a coloumn with the whole Date field or just the last 4 digits ("Year")

Re: year/date

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:38 am
by MusicBringer
rusty wrote:But the field actually supports dates!
I didn't know that :oops:

I hope I can display in my English date format: ddmmmyyyy :D

This feature will be very handy esp for concerts where I have the same gig performed on different dates.

Re: year/date

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:55 am
by nojac
MusicBringer wrote:I hope I can display in my English date format: ddmmmyyyy :D
Why not just test it? On my computer the format is dd.mm.yyyy

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:25 pm
by MusicBringer
Hello nojac, thanks for the prompt, never thought of that :oops:

Using the track properties box I changed the Date field to 21 Nov 2007 (also tried 21 11 2007) but nothing was held/saved. The field was showing a blank. I changed it back to the correct date (year). :roll:

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:46 pm
by nojac
MusicBringer wrote:Hello nojac, thanks for the prompt, never thought of that :oops:
You didn't think of trying the format I suggested?? :D

Or this: 10/11/2007? This is changed to 10.11.2007 on my computer. I have no idea if the date format is a MM or a Windows setting, however.....

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:03 pm
by MusicBringer
Sorry, no - I never thought of trying it out (testing it) ha, ha.

And it works ok now. I was not entering a separator in the date. So 21/11/2007 works. Hooray. Thanks for your help nojac.

Re: Year / date inconsistencies

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:03 am
by caddy
rusty wrote:Caddy,

With respect to the inconsistencies that you originally brought up:
Year: Used in Track browser columns & nodes
Date: Used in Track Properties and Column headers

I'm not really certain that we should make a change or not, since the track browser and column nodes would be kind of useless if they were grouped by Date. The only reasonable alternative might be to label the fields as 'date' but only use the year portion of the date.

With respect to Original Year/Original date, we should just make them consistent.

Let me know what you think.

-Rusty
i understand now how the differences have arisen , can we have a choice on the columns to either select a column date or a column year or both if we so desired.

thanks caddy..

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:35 pm
by MusicBringer
"...we have a choice on the columns to either select a column date or a column year or both if we so desired."

Yeah, good innit :)

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:42 am
by caddy
MusicBringer wrote:"...we have a choice on the columns to either select a column date or a column year or both if we so desired."

Yeah, good innit :)
sorry im not with you on that one ?

i can only select dates from columns, i can input dates as years , but i dont have a column heading option of years .

caddy..