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Podcast Subscriptions not downloading the latest

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:08 am
by JoeTX
First, let me say, MM3 (1105) is the new killer app. With Podcast subscriptions, you've taken all motivation away from using iTunes!

When I subscribe to Air America podcasts, MM3 is not downloading the latest podcast. It looks like its pulling the earliest PC.

When i remove the podcast it has downloaded, and then click on update podcast, it seems to download a random podcast, not exactly the earliest one, and not exactly the latest one.

MM Lifetime User

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:14 pm
by Ludek
Could you please put here the exact link to the podcast (feed URL) so that I could reproduce it. Thx.

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:30 pm
by JoeTX
Ludek wrote:Could you please put here the exact link to the podcast (feed URL) so that I could reproduce it. Thx.
http://www.airamerica.com/premium/podcast.php?pid=17

This is their premium service, so it will require a userid and password to work properly. Maybe I can find another podcast feed to try... or maybe I could im you my userid and pass

Here is the xml source.

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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:45 am
by Ludek
Thank you, we found another podcast ( http://www.airamerica.com/premium/podcast.php?pid=4 ) where the problem is also reproducable.

It is fixed on this podcast in build 1110. (check over RC4 later)
The podcast needs to be re-subscribed so that the download order is right !!

Releated note:
The problem was that http://www.airamerica.com/premium/podcast.php?pid=4 have unknown <PubDate> (release date) for all its episodes (i.e. the podcast doesn't correspond to the podcast specification http://www.apple.com/itunes/store/podca ... specs.html ).
Therefore iTunes doesn't show the release date at all and consider it as unknown, we use the date of updating in the case that the date tag is missing from feed XML. In that way MM tries to be more smart than iTunes and guess the release date although this info is not presented in the feed XML.

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:57 am
by Guest
Ludek wrote:Thank you, we found another podcast ( http://www.airamerica.com/premium/podcast.php?pid=4 ) where the problem is also reproducable.

It is fixed on this podcast in build 1110. (check over RC4 later)
The podcast needs to be re-subscribed so that the download order is right !!

Releated note:
The problem was that http://www.airamerica.com/premium/podcast.php?pid=4 have unknown <PubDate> (release date) for all its episodes (i.e. the podcast doesn't correspond to the podcast specification http://www.apple.com/itunes/store/podca ... specs.html ).
Therefore iTunes doesn't show the release date at all and consider it as unknown, we use the date of updating in the case that the date tag is missing from feed XML. In that way MM tries to be more smart than iTunes and guess the release date although this info is not presented in the feed XML.
Thanks for the quick reply and turnaround, I look forward to testing the fix!

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:36 pm
by Killjoy12
All of my subscriptions download correctly, expect for one, which doesn't download any items. This occurs with version 3.0.2.1129.


http://rss.vanguard.com/pod/plaintalk.xml


Thanks

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:19 pm
by Killjoy12
Actually, I found one more.

For this one, the published dates are not interpreted correctly, so it is not downloading the most recent 10.

http://www.hometowntales.com/htpodcast.xml

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:24 am
by Ludek
Thank you,

1. The podcast http://rss.vanguard.com/pod/plaintalk.xml
- fixed in the next beta of MM 3.0.2

2. The podcast http://www.hometowntales.com/htpodcast.xml
- the date is not in the format defined in RFC 2822, 3.3. Date and Time Specification ( http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2822.html ), but we added a correction, so it is fixed in the next beta of MM 3.0.2. You can check over, but you will need to re-subscribe this podcast.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:32 am
by Killjoy12
Thank you!