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RC3: auto volume analysis --> playback problem [F4097 RC4
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:57 pm
by Octopod
Hi,
I just found a really major issue.
I installed all MM3 version since RC1 and all was fine.
A few days ago i activated the auto-analysis feature (tracks & album volume analysis as a background task) and let MM compute all for a few hours. Then i didn't use it for a few days.
Now, ALL my 12 Ktracks are analyzed (tracks & album) but today i found that no track can be played!!! Works fine with other players (WMP11 for example)
My theory (to be confirmed): only tracks added to the library BEFORE mass analysis (or before MM v3, not sure) will play! I have a few albums that can be play (added recently), the older ones cannot. And if i remove some old tracks from the library then re-add them they will play.
Somebody to confirm this?
Any help would be appreciated to avoid resetting my library...

(even a script that reset all volume analysis)
Thanks in advance.
Re: RC3 - Major issue : auto volume analysis and old tracks
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:01 pm
by Octopod
Octopod wrote:My theory (to be confirmed): only tracks added to the library BEFORE mass analysis (or before MM v3, not sure) will play!
I complete my own theory: only tracks added to the library
BEFORE mass analysis and that was not analyzed yet won't play...
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:22 pm
by Octopod
Just another "funny" thing : when a track is so hanged and doesn't play, as soon the menu "Player | Volume leveling" is changed, the track starts playing.
Then if you try to play another track and go back to play this one:
- it will always play now!
- the player position is restored...
Really amazing behaviour

Help!
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:12 am
by Octopod
Up.
I confirm that all the tracks that were part of MM2's DB are not playable anymore.
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:25 am
by Octopod
Well, seems nobody's interested or concerned by this issue.
So i think nobody's interested by its solution...

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:22 am
by jiri
Sorry, I haven't seen this thread yet. Could you e-mail me some sample tracks with this problem? So far we aren't aware of any problem in this area...
Jiri
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:29 am
by rovingcowboy
what plugin are you using. maybe it is messing up?
so all you did was level analyize the songs. ? i'll see if the ogg files are affected that way?
nope i did anaylize by right clicking on the song and clicking on it where it was listed on the context menu.
i did it with all the options unchecked,
then i checked one of the three.
then i checked two of the three.
i then changed what one was unchecked then tried it again.
the songs still played.
i even closed mm 3 rc 3 and started it again and the songs still played..
i have no idea what caused your trouble but the ogg files seem to handle the anaylizing just fine.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:33 am
by Octopod
Actually, tracks were not involved but only the DB.
The problem is gone after manually cleaning DB fields in Songs table.
I reset the following columns: OrigFileLength (NULL), PlaybackPos (0), Web* (NULL), Cache* (NULL), Preview* (NULL)
I don't know precisely where was the problem but it's ok now... All i know is that my MM2 DB as been converted with RC1, then RC2 computed all tracks & albums volume ; then only tracks added to the library by MM3 where readable (and tracks that were not part of the library as well).
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:37 am
by Octopod
rovingcowboy wrote:what plugin are you using. maybe it is messing up?
Minimal and default plugins used.
I tried removing ALL the unecessary DLLs from the install dir and also by changing out plugin: no change
rovingcowboy wrote:i'll see if the ogg files are affected that way?
Only MP3s in my library...
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:13 am
by Octopod
I just tried to identify the modified field(s) that allowed to restore playable tracks.
Actually, setting column PlaybackPos to 0 was sufficient to fix my library.
Hope this could highlight a potential issue.
auto-analysis playback issue
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:25 pm
by rusty
Octopod,
We were trying to fix some flac-related auto-volume-analysis issues before investigating this. Now that those have been resolved, I've been able to replicate this issue.
In my environment, the problem occurs for any tracks that match a filter for which playback rules have been configured to enable bookmarking. In a default environment, that is any Podcast or Audiobook.
Does that match your experience?
-Rusty
Re: auto-analysis playback issue
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:56 am
by Octopod
rusty wrote:Does that match your experience?
Yes i think it is close to my problem.
I realized after posting that both problems raised at the same time (please have a look to this post
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23066).
Bookmarking problem
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:34 pm
by rusty
Fixed in RC4.
-Rusty