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Tag original release year?
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:51 am
by frodon
Are there any good scripts that can tag the original relase year of a record?
If you use the "Amazon Tag from Internet"-option, it will more often than not suggest the year of some recent re-release, instead of the original release year...
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:10 am
by nohitter151
No, there can't be any good scripts if there isn't really any good place to find this information...
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:15 am
by Muther
I found 2 places to look for info with searchable databases. I'm not sure about the accuracy or if they would be useful for a script but in looking for these I had a thought. since no one has a good DB, why don't we make one?
The two I found are - These seem cool but lack lyrics and coverart
http://umdmusic.com/
http://www.onlinemusicdatabase.com/
Yeah I know huge job, Impossible to manage, hard to maintain, but the advantages would be outrageous! And we already have a lot of the info we would need to assemble it considering the user base of MM.
if we had a DB that included the info we want in one location we could do away with all this searching for sources and inputting info by hand and get back to listening to our music. LOL
we would need to.....
- Recruit a few scripters and developers.
To set standards and structure determine the info to be included.
A DB on a server.
A script to access the DB.
A script to auto upload the user info to the DB from MM.
The ability to Gleam info from other sources to expand the DB.
I for one would like to at least try to do this and would put in time and energy towards it's development. even just a DB that included the basic info with coverart and the lyrics in one place would be a huge step forward. and if we set it up to cater to audiophiles from the beginning by including info like band members it could be a great tool
so go ahead shoot it down ...LOL but think about it for a second first.

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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:05 pm
by justin_f
Muther wrote:
Yeah I know huge job, Impossible to manage, hard to maintain
I think this would be the main drawback
but the advantages would be outrageous!
And this is the obvious main benefit.
I'm sure the idea has floated around before, since it's such a simple, good idea, but it's obviously never gotten off the ground. I, for one, would be willing to help out however I could. I can't script (I write documentation for a living, not code

) but I have plenty of song data to add.
Re: Tag original release year?
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:44 am
by Warralex
I have started an .xml file with year (charted) and peak on the charts. It is only for pop right now, and I only have 1970-2000 done, but my plan is to do other charts as well. Is there a script to improt this data into mm3? It would be great if there was a way for everyone to share this and add info to it. With just those 30 years and pop covered, I have about 14000 tracks. Obviously it would only help with charted songs, but it is a start.
Re: Tag original release year?
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:26 pm
by trixmoto
There isn't currently a script, as no one's seen your data structure yet! One could certainly be written to import the data though, as long as there's enough to use to link to tracks in your database.
Re: Tag original release year?
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:15 pm
by Warralex
Year Yearly Rank High Artist Artist Inverted Featured Album Album Track No. Track BPM
2008 50 58 Ashley Tisdale Tisdale, Ashley Headstrong He Said, She Said 114
2008 123 13 Taylor Swift Swift, Taylor Taylor Swift Teardrops On My Guitar 99
2008 233 6 Finger Eleven Finger Eleven Them vs. You vs. Me Paralyzer 106
2008 258 26 Paramore Paramore Riot! Misery Business
2008 264 37 Billy Ray Cyrus Cyrus, Billy Ray Home At Last Ready, Set, Don't Go
2008 310 25 Good Charlotte Good Charlotte Good Morning Revival I Don't Wanna Be In Love (Dance Floor Anthem)
2008 319 12 Wyclef Jean Jean, Wyclef Featuring Akon, Lil Wayne & Niia Sweetest Girl (Dollar Bill)
2008 332 16 Taylor Swift Swift, Taylor Taylor Swift Our Song
2008 336 56 Seether Seether Finding Beauty In Negative Spaces Fake It
2008 345 70 Last Goodnight, The Last Goodnight, The Poison Kiss Pictures Of You
2008 347 11 Natasha Bedingfield Bedingfield, Natasha Featuring Sean Kingston Pocketful Of Sunshine Love Like This
2008 349 22 Mary J. Blige Blige, Mary J. Growing Pains (Bonus Track Version) Just Fine
2008 350 43 Gary Allan Allan, Gary Living Hard (Bonus Track Version) Watching Airplanes
2008 351 1 Flo Rida Flo Rida Featuring T-Pain Low - EP Low
2008 352 52 Rascal Flatts Rascal Flatts Still Feels Good Winner At A Losing Game
2008 357 18 Britney Spears Spears, Britney Piece Of Me
2008 358 7 Sean Kingston Kingston, Sean Take You There
2008 361 38 Birdman Birdman Featuring Lil Wayne Pop Bottles
2008 362 4 Sara Bareilles Bareilles, Sara Little Voice Love Song
2008 366 15 Linkin Park Linkin Park Minutes To Midnight Shadow Of The Day
2008 369 18 J. Holiday Holiday, J. Back Of My Lac Suffocate
Re: Tag original release year?
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:18 pm
by Warralex
Sorry if that is a little odd looking, but copy and paste was the best thing I could think of, also I have come across a database on the internet that has every pop song since the 20's on it, again it is not everything anyone would want, but it is a good start.
Re: Tag original release year?
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:28 pm
by Warralex
here is the link to the database
http://sharebee.com/beb55ad8
Re: Tag original release year?
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:45 am
by trixmoto
You said an XML file but that was an XLS file. Not a problem, a script could still be written to import the information.
Re: Tag original release year?
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:47 pm
by Warralex
Trixmoto, do you have anything as a basis for a script? I think I can get it done for myself by going around the barn, so to speak, by exporting my tag info to excel, making the changes, then importing it back in (basically using a utility I found to save your tag info in excel, and being able to go back and restore it). Doing that will not really help anyone else. I would like to try to do the script, but if it is beyond basic, I will never get it done. Any help would be appreciated.
Re: Tag original release year?
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:32 am
by trixmoto
Well my "Custom Report" can be used to create an XLS file - I presume reading from one would be similar to the code in there, but reversing the call which updates the cell. Then you need to find the track to update, which if you don't have the filename will need a progressive metadata search, something like I have in my "Recreate M3U" script.
Re: Tag original release year?
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:44 am
by DazB
Hi,
Due to the size of the data file would it not be better to build a database and query that? Using a database also opens up other possibilities.
Daz
Re: Tag original release year?
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:47 pm
by DumbPoet
Is there not a reliable database of Vinyl, 8-track, and Cassest releases on the web somewhere?
If there was would it be possible to write a script that checks each resource in chronological order so that it pulls out the earliest possible date?
Re: Tag original release year?
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:14 pm
by SDJeff
Any update on this?