Where has the title bar gone?

by **MMFrLife** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:34 pm

PDoyle, follow over to appropriate forum/thread: Need Help With Addons > Backup 6.0

by **PDoyle** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:58 pm

MMFrLife wrote:
PDoyle wrote:I meant Title Bar, not Menu Bar. And Without the Title Bar, I'm unable to change skins; but if MM is restarted, the skin changes (though it should not) and the Title Bar does appear.
So, nothing shows at the top except MM icon symbol and you cant' get to any of the top GUI menu controls; what version of MM?

After restarting Windows 10, MM starts fine; doesn't ask me to create a new local library; and is showing the Title bar. Everything seems to work; except Backup 6 which fails due to runtime vb script or something like that.

how can I attach a screenshot to show Backup settings?

by **MMFrLife** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:38 pm

PDoyle wrote:I meant Title Bar, not Menu Bar. And Without the Title Bar, I'm unable to change skins; but if MM is restarted, the skin changes (though it should not) and the Title Bar does appear.

So, nothing shows at the top except MM icon symbol and you cant' get to any of the top GUI menu controls; what version of MM?

by **PDoyle** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:10 pm

terrypin wrote:Wouldn't this be better in a fresh post? This thread is about the missing title bar, not the menu bar.

BTW, just before seiing your post I was previewing my own latest reply and it suddenly vanished

I'll redo it.

sorry, my mistake; I meant Title Bar, not Menu Bar. With my Windows 10, the Title Bar will not appear. And Without the Title Bar, I'm unable to change skins; but if MM is restarted, the skin changes (though it should not) and the Title Bar does appear.

by **PDoyle** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:57 pm

MMFrLife wrote:
PDoyle wrote:For the past month, the menu toolbar has not been visible.
Have you tried View > something that refers to the menu at top of drop-down menu (don't have MM in front of me)?

That's the thing; there IS no 'View' to select; there are no menu commands appearing at all.
The only visible thing is the MM logo at far upper Left of screen; if you right click that, only useless options appear.
Now MM won't open at all, so I cannot send screen shot.

by **terrypin** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:03 am

chrisjj wrote:> I have a menu that is activated by clicking the middle mouse button anywhere in that program's title bar.

You could try it on the MM icon that in Win 7 MM is on the title bar and which I see on the Win 10 MM is on the menu bar, left end.

Also perhaps post a screenshot including the full Win 10 MM top.

[Second attempt to reply - the first vanished!]

Here's a full width screenshot, FWIW:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/401 ... eBar-2.jpg

Middle-clicking anywhere in my titlebar-less MM on this Win 10 PC does nothing.

I'll try including that screenshot again. First time it was sized to fit the message window width, which was unexpected.

EDIT: ... and I see that's consistent. Not that there are any elements of interest on the right anyway.

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I have at least one other major app with no titlebar, Excel 365. But a middle click in an empty part of its top area display my macro menus, as for all other programs. MM remains the exception.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/401 ... ebar-1.jpg

by **terrypin** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:58 am

Wouldn't this be better in a fresh post? This thread is about the missing title bar, not the menu bar.

BTW, just before seiing your post I was previewing my own latest reply and it suddenly vanished

I'll redo it.

by **MMFrLife** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:55 am

PDoyle wrote:For the past month, the menu toolbar has not been visible.

Have you tried View > something that refers to the menu at top of drop-down menu (don't have MM in front of me)?

by **PDoyle** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:53 am

For the past month, the menu toolbar has not been visible. The only way I can get it appearing (Windows 10), is to restart MMW. Another skin appears, with the toolbar. So on my pc toolbar doesn't appear with some skins; does appear with others.

I don't want the skins to change upon restart; that's a new development, too.

And my Backup 6 has stopped working after working fine for several months...I've read the Backup 6 thread, changed various settings, but....

I'm also getting notice that MM.DB cannot be opened; would you like to create a new local library? maybe a restart of windows 10 will help.

by **MMFrLife** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:07 am

chrisjj wrote:> I have a menu that is activated by clicking the middle mouse button anywhere in that program's title bar.

Sorry, I thought you must have been quoting him, but I couldn't find where it was. I see it now. Thanks.
As far as the menu, do you get a different one?

by **chrisjj** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:56 am

MMFrLife wrote:
chrisjj wrote:> I have a menu that is activated by clicking the middle mouse button anywhere in that program's title bar.
On What OS? What menu, the standard restore, max, min., etc.? Do you have a literal middle button?

That's my quote of terrypin

MMFrLife wrote:
chrisjj wrote:You could try it on the MM icon that in Win 7 MM is on the title bar and which I see on the Win 10 MM is on the menu bar, left end.
I've tried the icon and get same menu mentioned above.

Aw.

by **MMFrLife** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:19 am

chrisjj wrote:> I have a menu that is activated by clicking the middle mouse button anywhere in that program's title bar.

On What OS? What menu, the standard restore, max, min., etc.? Do you have a literal middle button? I only have 7 and middle scroll button
gives that menu if that button is programmed for right click.

chrisjj wrote:You could try it on the MM icon that in Win 7 MM is on the title bar and which I see on the Win 10 MM is on the menu bar, left end.

I've tried the icon and get same menu mentioned above. Not sure how clicking the icon is relevant unless you get a menu that allows you to enable the title?

chrisjj wrote:Also perhaps post a screenshot including the full Win 10 MM top.

Full top shot will have to be done by terrypin. I only have 7. I'm waiting to see next Win..

by **chrisjj** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:08 am

> I have a menu that is activated by clicking the middle mouse button anywhere in that program's title bar.

You could try it on the MM icon that in Win 7 MM is on the title bar and which I see on the Win 10 MM is on the menu bar, left end.

Also perhaps post a screenshot including the full Win 10 MM top.

by **MMFrLife** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:04 am

terrypin wrote:Why would they be able to say why MediaMonkey has no identifiable title bar?

It wouldn't, necessarily. But Insight Software might have encountered such issues before and know how to deal with them in a less obvious
way (workaround?); just taking the exhaustive approach. The question to MM is still relevant, though. I myself would like to know why this is
and thought it a way to help keep the topic alive until the powers that be respond.

Thanks chrissjj, for confirming both skin-related manifestations with latest version of MM and Win7. But, between terrypin and myself (I get no title
border on either .exe on Win7), it appears to still be an issue on Win7 and Win10.

by **terrypin** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:44 am

Thanks Chris, that's exactly how I used to have it on my XP PC. I assume from other replies that it's changed after Win 7 then, at least for non-skinned on Win 10 which I use? But still hoping to hear from MediaMonkey.

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