Undesired Files Sync

Post a reply

:D :) :( :o :-? 8) :lol: :x :P :oops: :cry: :evil: :roll: :wink:

BBCode is ON
[img] is ON
[flash] is OFF
[url] is ON
Smilies are ON

Topic review

Expand view Topic review: Undesired Files Sync

Re: Undesired Files Sync

by IanRTaylorUK » Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:46 am

Hi Kathy2343,

I would recommend starting with just one playlist for say one album and building up a few playlists at a time.

This way you can get feedback on your settings and choices. For example, in file locations for Music I personally use:

\Music\<Album Artist>\<Album>\<Disc #><Track #:2>-<Title>

to get:

\Xperia XZ\XZJune2021\Music\10cc\Sheet Music\101-The Wall Street Shuffle.mp3

On the device "Zperia XZ" with the SD Card "XZJune2021"

Re: Undesired Files Sync

by kathy2343 » Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:22 pm

IanRTaylor--I saw your post after giving up and manually copying all my music. It's a good idea but would involve creating playlists for my entire collection, which is a bit much. Still, I might have tried it if I'd seen it sooner. Hopefully it will help others who visit this board.

Re: Undesired Files Sync

by kathy2343 » Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:19 pm

I've given up. I've checked every setting I know to check, and my structure is very simple: I want to sync everything in D:\Music to Internal Storage\Music on my mobile device. On my last effort, I synced three separate times, and a lot of albums simply won't sync. I'm not syncing playlists, genres, or anything else--only a single location from my desktop.

At this point, I won't be using MMA sync. Unless I find another app that does syncing, I'll have to copy all my music manually back and forth between my computer and my device.

I'm very sad, as I had hoped to use this feature to avoid having to manually copy back and forth, and I spent many hours and many posts here trying to get it working. :(

I do appreciate Lowlander's efforts to help, but in the end the documentation is simply too confusing for this user who is very tech savvy but still finds the MM settings beyond daunting.

Re: Undesired Files Sync

by IanRTaylorUK » Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:45 am

Create Playlists in MMW4 and then Sync using only the Playlists to your Android device(s).

Tracks can be in multiple Playlist but will only be copied to device once e.g. in Album Playlist, Date Range Playlist or Star Rating Playlist.

Same approach should work in MMW5 but can't say I have tested it too much.

Run the Debug version of MMW then you can always "see" what is going on.

Re: Undesired Files Sync

by kathy2343 » Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:36 pm

I haven't used the MediaMonkey manage collections feature. I just have all my music in two Music folders that are selected for Add/Rescan files to the library. When I select File/Manage Collections, the only things checked in the Media Tree are Now Playing (grayed out), Music, Playlists (grayed out), and several checkboxes at the bottom of the list that don't have any labels next to them. I unchecked all of those, and if you think that will make a difference, I'll try resyncing.

Re: Undesired Files Sync

by kathy2343 » Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:31 pm

The plot thickens. I can see the Soft Classical genre in MM for Android Auto (and in MM for Windows when the device is connected)--just not in the MMA app on the device itself. Using same device (Galaxy Note20) for all three things). This definitely seems to be a bug in MMA.

So SOME albums with Soft Classical tag synced to the device, just not all of them.

Re: Undesired Files Sync

by Lowlander » Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:32 pm

kathy2343 wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:25 pm Here's what is selected in the sync device profile:
Location: D:\Music.
Under which Collection? And do the files in question actually exist in that Collection?

Re: Undesired Files Sync

by kathy2343 » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:25 pm

Thanks, Lowlander, but I've repeatedly reviewed everything I know to review. Here's what is selected in the sync device profile:
Location: D:\Music.
That is where all the music I want to sync resides.

Autosync is turned off in the sync device profile--I start sync manually.

The paths under Options/File Locations in the sync device profile are:
Music: \Music\<Album Artist>\<Album>\<Track#:2> - <Title>
Classical: \Music\<Album Artist>\<Album>\<Track#:2> - <Title>
And then various settings for podcasts, videos, etc.--none of which are problems.

Since I don't want ANYTHING to sync to the Music\Classical folder, I retagged all tracks that had been tagged as genre Classical to a new tag of Soft Classical. Now those tracks don't sync at all, the album art for them is syncing to Music\Classical, and the genre Soft Classical doesn't even appear in the genre window on my device.

Completely baffled.

Re: Undesired Files Sync

by Lowlander » Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:38 pm

Normally it is because it isn't selected to be Synced in the Device Profile. I don't know how you setup your Sync Selection, but you may need to review it: https://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/WebHel ... _Device.29

Re: Undesired Files Sync

by kathy2343 » Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:07 pm

Yes, nothing had changed on that setting (I just double checked to be sure), and most music from that location is syncing. Some is not, particularly (maybe only? I didn't check) the music with the new genre (Soft Classical). And the new genre doesn't even appear in the genre list in Android. But it is there in the desktop version tree for my mobile. I'm baffled.

Re: Undesired Files Sync

by Lowlander » Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:57 pm

Are the files selected for Sync? They may not have been selected after they were removed and re-added in MMW.

Re: Undesired Files Sync

by kathy2343 » Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:53 pm

Correction--changing the path in "Classical" under File Locations for my sync did not completely solve my problem. Sync was still creating a "Classical" subfolder in my Music folder on my mobile device, even though I set the destination paths exactly the same.:
Music: Music\<Album Artist>\<Album>\<Track#:2> - <Title>
Classical: \Music\<Album Artist>\<Album>\<Track#:2> - <Title>

I gave up and retagged all music with a genre of Classical to something else, rescanned my desktop library, deleted all my music on my mobile, and resynced. Now: 1) nothing with the new genre tag is available in the Android app on my mobile, even though the music shows in the desktop app tree view of my mobile, 2) the new genre doesn't even appear in the Android app when I select Genre view, and 3) album art only (no tracks) from some albums that used to be tagged Classical are still showing up in a Classical subfolder of Music on the mobile.

I think I'm going to give up on sync and go back to manually copying all my music to my mobile. It's just a pain to keep it updated when changes are made to my library. But Android sync seems to be irredeemably buggy--at least for now.

Re: Undesired Files Sync

by kathy2343 » Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:47 pm

Thanks, Lowlander. Yes, I'm sure sync was causing the unwanted files and folders to be created. I deleted the entire Music folder on the mobile, and that's where the undesired files/folders would reappear at sync.

However, I've apparently solved my sync problem by changing the path for Classical music to be the same as for Music. I'm not sure why that was causing files to download that I didn't want (not all of which were Classical genre--and why would a destination path affect which files transfer from the source anyway?), but at least it's working correctly now after HOURS of setup effort. Go figure.

And thank you for all your help! You sent me in some paths that helped narrow down the problem.

Re: Undesired Files Sync

by Lowlander » Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:07 pm

Are you sure Sync is creating the folders? Could they have been created in the past and since have their files removed?

The easiest way to confirm is to remove anything that doesn't belong on the device itself and then do a Sync. If Sync recreates folders and/or Syncs unselected files there is something to investigate.

Screenshots: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=97733

Re: Undesired Files Sync

by kathy2343 » Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:00 pm

Well, I've checked and checked. Would send you a screen capture of my sync settings but I can't figure out how. The undesired folders that are syncing do not exist in the one single location I've selected to sync.

BUT I've found another clue--they're syncing as completely empty file folders. To summarize:
* Only D:\Music is selected to sync.
* Additional music is stored in H:\Kathy's Files\Music.
* Some folders for music stored on the H drive are synced, but they sync empty--without the files that are stored in H.

So those folders are coming in from somewhere else, possibly not from a sync of the folders on the H drive. I thought it might be caused by Playlists, as you suggested, but I've deselected Playlists for sync and deleted any I could find from my mobile. I've also run a search on the mobile for some of the words in the undesired folder names, and nothing was found. IOW, those folders aren't already on my mobile when I do the sync.

Apparently something is hidden somewhere that is triggering generation of those folders during sync, and I can't figure out what.

I'd appreciate any additional clues you can give me. Even if you can't, I certainly appreciate the help you've given so far! At least I could figure out some workarounds at this point.