Some of things between V4 & V5

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Re: Some of things between V4 & V5

by dypsis » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:38 pm

All working, Peke. Thank you.

Checking Dead Link hung both computers the first time I checked, but worked the next time.
I couldn't even send the error log, as it was also hung.

Re: Some of things between V4 & V5

by dypsis » Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:45 pm

OK. No dead links.

Re: Some of things between V4 & V5

by dypsis » Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:45 pm

I guess all this should have been started in a new thread as a reference and help for others.

Re: Some of things between V4 & V5

by Peke » Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:37 pm

Hi,
Yes, File -> Manage Library -> Rebuild Database , you can also enable rebuild Full text Search.

You are safe MM.DB is renamed to MM5.DB anyway and that is why you use portable. Additional security backup.

Re: Some of things between V4 & V5

by dypsis » Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:34 pm

It has hung/frozen when I click Dead Links. :(

Re: Some of things between V4 & V5

by dypsis » Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:32 pm

7. Rebuild Library ?

Re: Some of things between V4 & V5

by dypsis » Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:29 pm

I copied MM4 database prior to opening MM5. It asked me if I wanted to copy both Library and Settings. I said "Yes".
I don't know what settings it was asking about. I hope it's not my installed version.

Re: Some of things between V4 & V5

by Peke » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:32 pm

Hi,
I can't agree more. This is why MM5 is in Beta ;) things like that when found should be fixed ASAP.

Re: Some of things between V4 & V5

by dypsis » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:31 pm

Thanks for your suggestion, Peke.
I will try that.

Someone needs to be able to come up with a simple method that is reliable and 100% working.

I guess step 1 is "Install Clean portable Version of MM4".

Re: Some of things between V4 & V5

by Peke » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:26 pm

dypsis wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:04 am I have been doing a lot of testing trying to convert a fairly large MM4 database to MM5 without any corruption.
So far, I have not succeeded.
Here is that I would suggest to try which I have done in the process of testing my 200k library that is 15 years old.
  1. Install Clean portable Version if MM4
  2. Copy your existing MM4 library to portable folder
  3. Do maintain Full on MM4 library and check if all files are there as they should be
  4. Install Clean MM5 Portable
  5. Copy MM4 library
  6. Start MM5 and let it finish update
  7. Start Rebuild Library
  8. Check if all is there
Point of this is to make MM.DB as Clean As possible from any Script changes.

Re: Some of things between V4 & V5

by dypsis » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:13 pm

Hi Ludek.

PM sent.
Please read my post above carefully.
I tried to explain the best I can.

I have included my current MM5.DB, a screenshot of the questionable tracks, and an old MM5.DB.corrupted file dated December 03, 2019.

Re: Some of things between V4 & V5

by Ludek » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:38 pm

Hi,
happy New Year to all of you too!

As for the original issues reported by @calibra69 :
- the volume bar width is depending on skin, we have already enlarged it in the default Material Design (Dark) skin, are you using version 2219 and the default skin?Also try to see here: https://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewt ... ar#p463106 how to make it wider easily.
- as for the All node: Yes, this was intentionally eliminated and there is the new toolbar button "Display folder content recursively" as pointed by Barry
- as for the streaming/casting limitation to 30 minutes in the free version: MM lifetime license will always work and "MM4 only license" works in MM5 until "MM5 only license" is available for selling

As for the MM4 > MM5 database conversion issue reported by @dypsis :
This should really work and I am currently not aware of any issues with this.
Could you please:
- PM me link to your MM4 database (and link to the converted MM5 corrupted database) with exact description of the corruption
- did you convert it just by running fresh install of MM5 on the same PC where the MM4 instance resides and by accepting to import the MM4 settings & database? Or you have used another workflow?

Re: Some of things between V4 & V5

by dypsis » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:20 pm

Hi Barry.

I have 5 tracks that are duplicated and will not remove.

I can see which track is the wrong one because it has no play history and when I right click and look at the properties, the path is one sub-folder above what it should be. Yes, the invalid track titles are listed in Files To Edit>Dead Links. But the crazy this is that the track titles listed in Dead Links are not the dead link tracks. I can play them. They are the good tracks. To get the dead link tracks, I can browse to the album and see the duplicate tracks and the one with no play history and an invalid file path.

But no matter how many time I right click on them and select "Remove", they return after another scan.

There has to be some problem with the database.
But I have converted many times, and have never had 100% success.

Re: Some of things between V4 & V5

by Barry4679 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:23 am

dypsis wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:04 am Even when you think you have succeeded, if you look closer your will find some tracks pointing to wrong folders. And I have not been able to fix them.
Am interested.

You converted by importing database from MM4, or using MM5 to re-scan your tracks?

How did you detect MM5 tracks pointing to the wrong folders?
Did EntireLibrary>FilesToEdit>Deadlinks list any missing tracks? ... I just tried with my 50,000+ tracks, and I see none ... btw I re-scanned, not import from MM4.

Re: Some of things between V4 & V5

by dypsis » Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:04 am

I have been doing a lot of testing trying to convert a fairly large MM4 database to MM5 without any corruption.
So far, I have not succeeded.

Even when you think you have succeeded, if you look closer your will find some tracks pointing to wrong folders. And I have not been able to fix them.

I have spent hours, days and weeks trying various methods, without success.
More work is needed to make this process a lot, lot better.

Be warned. Don't leave MM4 until you are absolutely certain that you have got the database conversion licked. 😛


PS: If one of the developers would like to take a look at my MM5 database, I am happy to supply it.

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