by jommakimmi » Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:49 am
Video in MM - Yes please.
Migrating videos. Pinnacle video transfer (pvt) does the converting job and saves 3 hour (typically) mp4-files. (Pvt is doing a acceptable work and can be recommended as a price worthy alternative The only "but" is that it has some problems with my old camera tapes, especially the dogma-style recordings with a non stable handle of the camera, though it isn't much worth saving either).
The long video files from the tapes are then splitted down to music videos and single TV-programs. By this I use MPEG-Streamclip. The program cuts on the I-frames which means that it just split the video in to smaller .mp4-parts whithout loosing in quality.
I then start MM 3.0 and scan the new video files and since they are in .mp4 MM recognises them. It is within MM possible to tag them, organize them, search them and other things that MM can effort, it is even possible playing them as sound files.
But:
It is not possible play them as video files. The vid4wa isn't working either toghether with MM 3.0 and besides that I'm not sure if it supports mp4 either. So the makeshift is a script called "external tools" which starts a external simple video player. You will not get the automatic play of next track as in MM, but it gives you one video played. The "codec-hell" can make a simple action like playing video on a PC to a real challenge before it works. The solution that works for me is the CCCP-video codek pack and a player called zoomplayer. The CCCP name was a little bit hesitating, but it is doing its job which is not very common in the video in pc business. For the rest: I use F12 in external tools in order to not interfear with anything else when starting the videoplayer from MM.
My suggestion is that MM builds in video handle ability on the same level as it plays sound-files today. With that I mean playing them with picture and sound, tagging, organizing etc.
As I see it, there is already a window for the video and that is the album art window. The window is used only for non moving pictures today on a sound-file. In a video file it could show a moving picture and if you click on it it magnifyes to a bigger window.
I can understand that the MM-team hesitates for the introduction of video-file-support, I have mentioned the codec hell as a big reason and all question that this can cause depending on technical solution, but if there are no development in MM on this I think it will rest as niche product only for some enthusiastic discophiles.
I am looking after this MM3+, but haven't seen anything yet, but it is not a question of "IF", it is "WHEN" this ability shows up in another program I think...
Video in MM - Yes please.
Migrating videos. Pinnacle video transfer (pvt) does the converting job and saves 3 hour (typically) mp4-files. (Pvt is doing a acceptable work and can be recommended as a price worthy alternative The only "but" is that it has some problems with my old camera tapes, especially the dogma-style recordings with a non stable handle of the camera, though it isn't much worth saving either).
The long video files from the tapes are then splitted down to music videos and single TV-programs. By this I use MPEG-Streamclip. The program cuts on the I-frames which means that it just split the video in to smaller .mp4-parts whithout loosing in quality.
I then start MM 3.0 and scan the new video files and since they are in .mp4 MM recognises them. It is within MM possible to tag them, organize them, search them and other things that MM can effort, it is even possible playing them as sound files.
But:
It is not possible play them as video files. The vid4wa isn't working either toghether with MM 3.0 and besides that I'm not sure if it supports mp4 either. So the makeshift is a script called "external tools" which starts a external simple video player. You will not get the automatic play of next track as in MM, but it gives you one video played. The "codec-hell" can make a simple action like playing video on a PC to a real challenge before it works. The solution that works for me is the CCCP-video codek pack and a player called zoomplayer. The CCCP name was a little bit hesitating, but it is doing its job which is not very common in the video in pc business. For the rest: I use F12 in external tools in order to not interfear with anything else when starting the videoplayer from MM.
My suggestion is that MM builds in video handle ability on the same level as it plays sound-files today. With that I mean playing them with picture and sound, tagging, organizing etc.
As I see it, there is already a window for the video and that is the album art window. The window is used only for non moving pictures today on a sound-file. In a video file it could show a moving picture and if you click on it it magnifyes to a bigger window.
I can understand that the MM-team hesitates for the introduction of video-file-support, I have mentioned the codec hell as a big reason and all question that this can cause depending on technical solution, but if there are no development in MM on this I think it will rest as niche product only for some enthusiastic discophiles.
I am looking after this MM3+, but haven't seen anything yet, but it is not a question of "IF", it is "WHEN" this ability shows up in another program I think...
