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by gk
Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:46 am
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]
Replies: 40
Views: 13807

Re: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]

I don't see why you're so obsessed with what/whether WMP writes to tag. The point is what it READS from the tag, not what it writes. PS here is the data you wanted: http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/561/wmppopm.png After looking at the data you posted in more detail, it is not possible to interpre...
by gk
Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:03 am
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]
Replies: 40
Views: 13807

Re: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]

I don't see why you're so obsessed with what/whether WMP writes to tag. The point is what it READS from the tag, not what it writes. Just by chance, I happened to notice that you edited this posting AFTER you said you had quit the thread ... Whatever. I am not 'obsessed' - it was you who assert tha...
by gk
Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:35 am
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]
Replies: 40
Views: 13807

Re: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]

I tried to delete this posting but could not - so I leave this comment - There was a lot of technical discussion about this issue - went offline during period of poll creation
by gk
Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:55 pm
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]
Replies: 40
Views: 13807

Re: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]

Since it has been argued, in this thread, that MM's desire for 'compatibility' with WMP v12 (Windows 7 only) justifies incompatibility with id3v2.3 POPM standard, here are the latest statistics on Windows 7 usage: http://www.crn.com/news/applications-os/226500025/number-of-windows-7-users-surpasses-...
by gk
Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:49 pm
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]
Replies: 40
Views: 13807

Re: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]

To sum up the discussion so far - The original question has been answered by me and nobody has expressed a difference of opinion so far: the "bomb" on import is being caused by MM wrongly interpreting "unrated" values in the POPM frame (0x00) as indicating a rating of "worst" (bomb). These are the i...
by gk
Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:24 am
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]
Replies: 40
Views: 13807

Re: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]

Why don't you just tell us exactly what is this "De-facto POPM implementation" that you claim to be compatible with - be specific in terms of star ratings and POPM data. I have already posted that: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=40532&p=226576&hilit=rating#p226576 I'm done wit...
by gk
Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:10 am
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]
Replies: 40
Views: 13807

Re: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]

More evidence: http://geekozoid.blogspot.com/2008/03/preserve-mp3-ratings-across-windows.html http://blogs.technet.com/b/kclemson/archive/2004/07/02/171992.aspx Related to MM: http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=3143 http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=40532 From the micr...
by gk
Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:51 pm
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]
Replies: 40
Views: 13807

Re: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]

Even more: see the mp3tag website which clearly states WMP uses POPM tag: http://help.mp3tag.de/main_tags.html The link you cite above only claims that WMP 10 used POPM tag in some way - it doesn't even say read or write. In any case, mp3tag is not an authority on the subject. Moreover, this is con...
by gk
Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:29 pm
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]
Replies: 40
Views: 13807

Re: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]

Re: viewing tracks in WMP... what exactly do you mean 'worst'? Bomb rating? of course that shows as unrated in WMP, it doesn't have any equivalent for 'Bomb' to display. Am I wrong to assume that MediaMonkey defines the 'bomb' rating to mean 'worst'? PS: You're right that WMP doesn't save ID tags f...
by gk
Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:15 pm
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]
Replies: 40
Views: 13807

Re: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]

PS. In the following it mentions that the WMP implementation of POPM is used: http://www.mediamonkey.com/sw/webhelp/frame/index.html?abouttrackproperties.htm Please provide a link to what is the "WMP implementation" of POPM. I have searched quite awhile and cannot find any reference to any such thi...
by gk
Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:52 pm
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]
Replies: 40
Views: 13807

Re: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb"

Rate a track in Windows explorer and open it in a tag viewer. POPM is used. What verson of Windows explorer are you talking about? I am using Windows XP SP3 and I do not see any way to 'rate' an mp3 file, using POPM data. Also, I don't know what you mean by 'tag viewer' - is this something in Windo...
by gk
Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:46 pm
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]
Replies: 40
Views: 13807

Re: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb"

Yes, but it READS the POPM tag from mp3 files. Verify it this way: tag an mp3 file in MM. Open that file in WMP. See that it is rated. I have tried what you suggested but I am seeing the opposite of what you say. I think we need to be specific about exactly what versions of what software we are tal...
by gk
Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:22 pm
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]
Replies: 40
Views: 13807

Re: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb"

Why does MM have to hijack the spec? This is simply evil. I don't know how many times I have to explain it. MM is not "evil", it just uses an implementation of POPM that makes the most sense in terms of compatibility. I understand the point about trying not to look bad in a buggy Microsoft world, b...
by gk
Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:47 pm
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]
Replies: 40
Views: 13807

Re: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb"

I would assume that being compatible with WMP and Windows As far as I can tell, WMP doesn't even use the POPM tag so there are no compatibility issues there. I don't know what you're talking about. Yes it does, at least certainly it can read that field, so I don't know where you got that info. I go...
by gk
Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:51 am
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb" [#2147]
Replies: 40
Views: 13807

Re: Newly-imported tracks default to ratings "bomb"

Lowlander wrote:I would assume that being compatible with WMP and Windows
As far as I can tell, WMP doesn't even use the POPM tag so there are no compatibility issues there. I don't know what you're talking about.