Any Ballroom, Swing, or Latin Dancers Out There?

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Any Ballroom, Swing, or Latin Dancers Out There?

Post by latinmusiclover » Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:52 pm

If you are a ballroom, swing, or latin dancer and you want to swap tips and tricks, let me know. I have a very large database of music with the tempo and suitability rated for about 25000 songs for ballroom, latin, and some swing.

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Post by judas » Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:31 pm

I'm colombian and latin its preety much all we do here. what do you mean by tricks? anyhow, can you PM me a mediamonkey report on your tracks to see if i can find something nice in there'
Cheers, judas

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Post by Steegy » Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:39 pm

can you PM me a mediamonkey report on your tracks
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Re: Any Ballroom, Swing, or Latin Dancers Out There?

Post by rovingcowboy » Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:29 pm

latinmusiclover wrote:If you are a ballroom, swing, or latin dancer and you want to swap tips and tricks, let me know. I have a very large database of music with the tempo and suitability rated for about 25000 songs for ballroom, latin, and some swing.
did you find any copys of the free songs i posted by joe loco? if you did where were you when i was trying to find out who that was?
if not then you might want to get them

http://www.geocities.com/rovincowboy/freealbum.html


yep they are free there are mirror links there by trixmoto if you have
a download manager that can take advantage of mirror sites.

enjoy. 8)
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Post by latinmusiclover » Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:13 pm

judas wrote:I'm colombian and latin its preety much all we do here. what do you mean by tricks? anyhow, can you PM me a mediamonkey report on your tracks to see if i can find something nice in there'
I'm actually interested in how to use MM to provide useful info for dancers -- things like how to create a tree/node for dance genre (sometimes not the same as musical genre). For example, "Swing" would have "East Coast Dwing", "West Coast Swing", and "Jive" as sub-genre. the music genre might be the same, but it might be "Jazz" or "Rock and Roll". that way I can search on the _dance_ genre when I want to. "Salsa" would have "Colombian Salsa", "Cuban Salsa", Puerto Rican Salsa", maybe even "NY Salsa" as sub-genres.

Another example is Cumbia. That's both a music genre and dance genre. But a lot of Cumbia is good for (ballroom) "Samba" or even (ballroom) Mambo or Salsa. SO the music genre might be "Cumbia' but the dance genre might not be.

Another thing is two rating systems -- one for the music, one for dance suitability.

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Post by DaledeSilva » Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:00 am

I'm a swing dancer...

for any dance style, the music that be used often relies on how it's counted... eg, is it 4/4, 3/4...

ie, is it counted in 8 or 6, or 5 even?

I have to admit... my music collection is an absolute mess.. but I'm always 'thinking' about how to organise.

if you are using subgenre's, I would name them all with their parent genre in he title and first...eg:

Swing (west coast)
Swing (east coast)
Swing (Jive)

that way.. in any genre list, listed alphabetically, they say together.

If you want to create other settings for "dance" genre's as opposed to the normal genre's.. I would use a custom field to enter them there... then you could use magic nodes to create a tree for them..
Alternatively, in MM 3.0, you can apply multiple genre's to tracks.. but this would mean that all your music genre's and dance henre's would be mixed in together (unless you added a prefix to all of one category like an underscore).

I know you said that youre bpm's are set already.. but if you need to set more.. I have create a script for doing that with manual tapping (it's in my signature)
The reason I don't just use mixmeister's bpm analyser is that while acurate.. if doesn't detect speed differences well and so slower songs are often marked as double the count (or faster songs 'can' be marked at half the count).

because BPM isn't always indicative of the 'feel' of the music's speed, I would use the tempo setting to indicate that - though I guess you could use "mood" instead...

I feel that given there's already BPM in the file... tempo and mood overlap quite a bit.... so maybe you can use mood for something else? - you dance genre's? - or a kind of rating system for dance?

Dale.
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Swing

Post by Skatercoach » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:06 am

Hi guys,
I am a artistic roller skating coach from australia. (Basically figure skating on roller skates) We do a dance component and i was wondering if anyone could tell me, is the Beach boys song fun fun fun considered a swing?
Anyone with any help would be great
Thanks

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Post by DaledeSilva » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:16 am

nope.. it's not swing
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Post by DaledeSilva » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:19 am

I think it's rock and roll.. I guess some people refer to it as surf music or something.. but no.. not swing
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Re: Swing

Post by rovingcowboy » Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:10 am

Skatercoach wrote:Hi guys,
I am a artistic roller skating coach from australia. (Basically figure skating on roller skates) We do a dance component and i was wondering if anyone could tell me, is the Beach boys song fun fun fun considered a swing?
Anyone with any help would be great
Thanks
most defently NOT.

swing is benny goodman's style of music.

fun fun fun and other beachboys songs is SURF MUSIC/ fun music. / rock and roll with a splash.
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Re: Swing

Post by latinmusiclover » Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:07 pm

rovingcowboy wrote:
Skatercoach wrote:is the Beach boys song fun fun fun considered a swing?
most defently NOT.
swing is benny goodman's style of music.

fun fun fun and other beachboys songs is SURF MUSIC/ fun music. / rock and roll with a splash.
It depends where you're from and what music you dance Swing to. I'm listening to it right now, and I'd Jive or Triple Swing to it without problem. It's even fast enough for International Jive.

So, YES, you can Swing to it, but it's not ideal.

Does anyone else hear a classic Bo Diddley start to the song?

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Post by Owyn » Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:32 pm

It don't mean a thing (if it ain't got that swing)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwfRAcv3jSI

It's all in the syncopation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_%28dance%29

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