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Re: [bug] Playlists don't update with the last changes when synced

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 9:44 am
by Onweerwolf
I also updated the .log file in the OP because the website I used to upload it to is apparently crap.

The current one will be around for a week.

https://we.tl/t-I2gOTP92o2

Re: [bug] Playlists don't update with the last changes when synced

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 7:18 pm
by Peke
Hi,
I am not being able to replicate and I tried past few days on several devices.

Here is a small video showing that when I add new track to playlist that is already on device and sync with WiFi from MMA Playlist gets updated, but track is not uploaded.

http://www.happymonkeying.com/forum/Pla ... synced.mp4

Can you confirm that behavior and can you be 100% sure that no other apps on phone changed playlist or at least changed modified date?

Asking because if MMA detects Playlist is changed in any other app other than MMA them MMW will not sync it due the possible risk of overwrite, but will record new date of playlist and sync new tracks if nothing changed on next sync?

Re: [bug] Playlists don't update with the last changes when synced

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:37 am
by Onweerwolf
Hey Peke,

I am synching my smartphone each Sunday and everytime, without exception, this problem occurs for me.

I switched smartphones about 5 weeks ago and that is when it started happening.

Of the devices you tested did any of them running Android 10?

Can you elaborate on the apps that could potentially interfere? I am not consciously running anything that changes playlists. I only play music with MMA on my smartphone. I have Simple Scrobbler installed to scrobble to last.fm and Tune Announcer Pro. Those are the only two apps that "do something" with music besides MMA. But I've had both running for years on my old phone.

As for your video: do I understand it correctly that Alan Jackson - After 17 was already on your MMA device?

Because that works for me: if a track is already on my device and I add it to a playlist it will show up in that playlist. The problem is the opposite; if a track is not already on the device and I add it to a playlist, the track will be synced to the device but it will not show up in the playlist.

Re: [bug] Playlists don't update with the last changes when synced

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:12 am
by Erwin Hanzl
Hello Peke,
hello Onweerwolf »
The problem is the opposite; if a track is not already on the device and I add it to a playlist, the track will be synced to the device but it will not show up in the playlist.
I have the same problem.

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=96707

SOLUTION:
- in MMW just move an order in the relevant playlists
- then synchronize again
- Strangely, all playlists on the phone are synchronized with MMW.
But that's not a condition!

Playlists only sync reliably after deletions. Additions often don't show up.

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:12 am
by terryo
mma 1.3.8.0916
mmw 4.1.28.1905

Playlists on my Samsung S9 only sync reliably when I delete an entry in mmw. Additions without a deletion do not show up. This started about 2-3 months ago and I only now experimented with the problem long enough to see the consistent pattern. All playlists, including 'recently added' function like this.

Re: [bug] Playlists don't update with the last changes when synced

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:43 pm
by Onweerwolf
I would like to add that it seems that the above behavior also goes for ratings. When I remove a rating in MMW and those files are already on MMA as part of a playlist the old ratings will still show in MMA.

Re: [bug] Playlists don't update with the last changes when synced

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:44 pm
by Onweerwolf
Erwin Hanzl wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:12 am
SOLUTION:
- in MMW just move an order in the relevant playlists
- then synchronize again
This is not a solution but a (manual and time-consuming) workaround.

Re: [bug] Playlists don't update with the last changes when synced

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:59 am
by Onweerwolf
This bug still persists.

Re: [bug] Playlists don't update with the last changes when synced

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:12 am
by Erwin Hanzl
This is not a solution but a (manual and time-consuming) workaround.
This bug still persists.
Yes that's true.

My experiences:
Tag synchronization MMA -> MMW:
YES: Title, Album, Rating
NO: Artist (s), Genre, Composer (s)
Sometimes YES, Sometimes NO: Played/PlayCounts, Release date
Syncing playlists does not work without problems (MMW => MMA)
Post by Peke » Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:04 am
Hi,
Better metadata bi-di sync is addressed in MMA 2.0 and should be improved further once MM5 gets out and we start MMA 2.0 testing.
I don't think MMA 1.x.x will change much.
MMA has been around since May 2018 and there are still fundamental problems.

Re: [bug] Playlists don't update with the last changes when synced

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:57 am
by Onweerwolf
So today everything synced perfectly. I noticed there was an update to MMA on the 18th of June. It's possible I had this update roll out for me last week and it fixed things. :)

Re: [bug] Playlists don't update with the last changes when synced

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:21 am
by Onweerwolf
Unfortunately this Sunday's sync saw the return of the problems with the playlists not being correctly updated. :(

Re: [bug] Playlists don't update with the last changes when synced

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:32 am
by Erwin Hanzl
Neverending story - I give up.
I'm waiting for the next MMA 1.4.x.xxxx beta.
If that doesn't solve the problem, I'll switch to a working player.
And I'm definitely not going to wait for MMA 2.x where the problems start over.

Re: [bug] Playlists don't update with the last changes when synced

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:42 am
by Erwin Hanzl
Version 1.4.0.0931 does not solve the problem either.

Re: [bug] Playlists don't update with the last changes when synced

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:48 pm
by Peke
Hi,
I am still not being able to replicate your problem. MMW controls how playlists are sent to MMA and do analyze sync list based on MMA request.

There was a bug with incomplete lists when special characters are used in filenames and it should be fixed in 1911 once it gets out.

I know you already supplied bunch logs and pictures, but it is very very strange that we can't replicate.

I sent you PM with more details.

Re: [bug] Playlists don't update with the last changes when synced

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:36 am
by terryo
Playlist sync is now completely inoperable, rendering MediaMonkey 75% useless to me. I have been struggling with the playlist sync for months, and for many weeks, limping by with the trick of deleting a few tracks from playlists to prod a sync. As of today, none of the playlists sync anymore. I tried both wireless and wired. I changed the array of playlists checked to sync when wired and retried sync, both wired and wireless. No change. The music moves over, but I can only find the added tracks using the search function in mma. HELP! This function is vital to my work as a radio DJ!

mmw 4.1.28.1910
mma 1.3.9.0924

All Win 10 & Android to current versions and updates