Ludek wrote: ↑Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:10 am
Re: Power Scroll:
we see the current local search (filtering) as more quicker way to find something in the long lists, on the other hand you are true that you must know what you are looking for, i.e. you are probably referring the use-cases when you don't know exact spelling of the particular artist, right?
No, that's not what i meant.
Full text search is good when you DON'T know exactly what you are looking for ... eg. the band "New Riders of the Purple sage" ... I am having a brain fade, and I know that it is Purple something ... or I want a track by Charles Mingus, but I am not sure whether he was the band leader, ie. maybe the artist tag is "Duke Ellington; Charles Mingus", or maybe the artist tag is just "Duke Ellington", but the AlbumArtist tag contains both names
But PowerScroll is much better when you know what you want, and you have a large database. ... ie. the Joni Mitchell example in my last post, where MM4 allows me to get to want I want in under a second.
The current MM5 search implementation has flaws. ... eg. if I am in EntireLibrary>Albums and I want to find the album called "The Complete Jazz Guitar", and I type "Jazz" it finds all my Jazz albums due to the genre tag. ... or I trying find the track "900 miles", I can remember it is something with miles in the track name, but it is hard to find because I also have 700+ tracks by Miles Davis ... or I want to find "Nashville Skyline, but is slow to find because all of my files are on my NAS, which is named "NAS-xxxxx" ... so the search returns everything because of my track paths.
I need to narrow it down for it to be useful.
As an example, say I am looking for tracks or album by Sonny Rollins. I type 'son', and MM5 currently gives me a list of 5492 tracks .... many just because I have a bunch of tracks tagged with genre of "Singer-Songwriter" ... plus lots of others just because "son" is in the track name or something .... this is very sub optimal
If compare this to the Sonos controller, which also indexes my music library. If I type "son", they return all tracks containing "son" anywhere, just as you do, but they only show you matches for the column that I currently have selected. I can switch from column to column (eg album to albumartist, etc), and the result is instantaneous, because they have all the matches cached, just not displayed... which is good IMO
Also Sonos are smart about the sequence in which they return the results. They start with the most likely artists:
* Son House ... ie. the tag starts with "son", in alpha sequence
* Sondre Lerche
* Sonny Rollins
* Sonny Stitt
* Mumford & Sons ... now 2nd level matches ie. a word starts with "son"
* Alan Parsons ... now 3rd level matches ie. "son" is part of a word, now in alpha seq
* Alan Wilson, etc
Maybe you could not do this smart sequencing (because maybe the grid is currently sorted in album|track# sequence, but I am filtering by AlbumArtist) ... but surely you could do better than giving me 5492 tracks to scroll through ... it is worse when the genre column is not currently selected for display, because I would be wondering why on earth so many unrelated tracks were there ... because I could not see the "singer-Songwriter" genre tag. which explains many of the results that you have returned to me.
In MM5, I know that I am searching for an artist, but you don't allow me to tell you that ... unless I setup the column browser.
You could offer something like ctrl-click a column heading, say albumartist, and type "son"
And then either you resort the grid to AlbumArtist sequence, and filter the display just based upon tag matches in that column, and maybe smart sort like Sonos does.
Or maybe leave the grid sorted as-is, but filter just using albumartist tags.
Or better still, offer both using Ctrl click and shift control click to differentiate
Or use a tool bar button (like Location's "Include Subfolders" button) to trigger the powerscroll
What I am saying is that I think that you have broken search & filtering.
I understand your aim to give the equivalent of MM4 "any text fields" search more prominance in MM5.
I understand your aim to make the Media Tree a less bloated control.
These are good developments IMO
But I don't understand why you had to abandon powerscroll. Especially since it was such a prominent feature in MM4.
MM5 is bringing so many great features, that I don't won't to get too hung up on it, but IMO it is one of the most indispensable DBMS features.
I am not interested in complicating things with add-ons at the moment. ... it is hard enough trying debug vanilla MM5
Ludek wrote: ↑Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:10 am
Re: Include sub-folders:
By the menu option you probably mean 'Subfolders' sub-view under the sub-view header? This is something different, it is for showing/hiding of subfolders in the view, but 'Exclude subfolders' toolbar button is a toggle to include/exclude files from the subfolders in the List-View, I agree that the wording isn't clear enough probably, to be revised and improved (or added explanation into tooltip -- you can suggest a better wording), on the other hand I believe that the functionality is clear for one who tried the options.
Yes, that was the menu option I was referring to.
I am struggling to understand your distinction between these two options.
These two things seem equivalent to me.
ie. "showing/hiding of subfolders in the view" == "include/exclude files from the subfolders in the List-View" ... ??
This what I see, and it is confusing
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xb94cwm3y4lcp ... 2.png?dl=0
And I am reasonably confident, that whatever it does, is not as important (to me) as powerscroll