MediaMonkey for managing multiple/featuring artists with id3v2.4 tags

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mo418
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MediaMonkey for managing multiple/featuring artists with id3v2.4 tags

Post by mo418 »

Hi,

I made some research but could not find the info. I used Musicbrainz Picard to tag my music files, using id3v2.4 and semi columns ";" to separate artists.

When I import my music in Mediamonkey and I sort by "artist", I see many "Artist X feat. Artist Y" instead of single artist name in the list. Album Artist are ok, but not Artist view itself.

What do I need to do (or option to check) to see separate artist in Mediamonkey, other than manual editing the song artists fields and removing the "feat" portion and putting ";" between the artists. When I do that, the artists indeed get seperated, and I can manually seach for an image for the respective artist.

Thanks in advance!

PS: Works flawless in Kodi when I import the files. I see single artist and no combined artists in Artist view so I guess my files are well tagged.
PPS: Sorry for my english, my native language is french.
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Re: MediaMonkey not managing multiple/featuring artists very well with id3v2.4 tags

Post by Lowlander »

Yes, you need to edit the Artist tags where they aren't shown with ; like when it list it feat.
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mo418
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Re: MediaMonkey not managing multiple/featuring artists very well with id3v2.4 tags

Post by mo418 »

Do you mean edit tags inside MediaMonkey or re-edit tags using MusicBrainz Picard?

Here is an example of how artists are separated in embedded tags
[img]https://www.screenpresso. com/cloud/iTj8d/[/img]

Here is how it appears in the library
[img]https://www.screenpresso. com/cloud/ySCzb/[/img]

And here what shows in the file settings
[img]https://www.screenpresso. com/cloud/k2VOb/[/img]

[img]https://www.screenpresso. com/cloud/J1BEc/[/img]

I have a big music collection. It would be quite time consuming to manually change the info (i.e. replacing the "feat. with semi columns in the song properties for each multiple artists songs).

I think I'm using Picard the good way, since Kodi can manage the files as expected. I would not want to go through MBP for my whole collection again. ;)

I've tried MusicBee (for fun) and I have the same "multiple artists issue".

Thanks for your support!
Last edited by mo418 on Tue May 04, 2021 9:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Ludek
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Re: MediaMonkey not managing multiple/featuring artists very well with id3v2.4 tags

Post by Ludek »

I believe that the "feat" part needs to be part of the file tags, MM does not auto create such a separators.
Can you attach a sample file to analyze its tags and understand from where the "feat" comes from ?
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Re: MediaMonkey not managing multiple/featuring artists very well with id3v2.4 tags

Post by mo418 »

Strangely, this comes from MusicBrainz Picard. And I haven't really messed with custom settings for tagging. I'll post a sample in a few.

Thanks
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Re: MediaMonkey not managing multiple/featuring artists very well with id3v2.4 tags

Post by mo418 »

Here is a file tagged with MBP (Download Link below)

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AmgUIqUzMZYmtVfpXAa ... R?e=0VyAK5
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Re: MediaMonkey not managing multiple/featuring artists very well with id3v2.4 tags

Post by Lowlander »

mo418 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 7:22 amStrangely, this comes from MusicBrainz Picard.
Yes, a lot of Albums come with Artist Feat. Artist from MusicBrainz. In this case you'll need to manually edit it to make it a multi-value field.
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mo418
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Re: MediaMonkey not managing multiple/featuring artists very well with id3v2.4 tags

Post by mo418 »

After further researches, I've used the script suggested here
https://community.metabrainz.org/t/sort ... s/390096/4

Code: Select all

$if($in(%artists%,;),$copy(artist,artists),)
And it is working! Artists are show separately in artists view (in library).

Had the same "issue" with MusicBee, and this script solved it too (I'm testing multiple programs to find which one I prefer). As stated, Kodi worked right out of the box, no change needed.

Thanks for your support. i'll let you know if I have other questions :)
Ludek
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Re: MediaMonkey not managing multiple/featuring artists very well with id3v2.4 tags

Post by Ludek »

Just FYI: Auto-tag feature implemented in MM5 also uses MusicBrainz as metadata source and the fingerprinting method/matches (like with Picard). So you might want to try it to descrease amount of apps needed for tagging your files: https://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/WebHel ... ternet/5.0
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Re: MediaMonkey not managing multiple/featuring artists very well with id3v2.4 tags

Post by rusty »

Just an fyi: MediaMonkey's auto-tag feature automatically converts featured artists to Artist if auto-tag finds a match for a given track.

Also, I've added an entry to mantis for a small script to quickly make such corrections:
https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=17829

-Rusty
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Re: MediaMonkey not managing multiple/featuring artists very well with id3v2.4 tags

Post by mo418 »

Awesome, thanks for the info guys. I guess I'll start using MM5 as a "jack-of-all-trade" tool!

I'm new to MM, so I'm also on a learning curve. Sorry if this was obvious and I asked this question about tagging.

Have a good day
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