Suport for multiple artist tracks

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Suport for multiple artist tracks

Post by Venereo » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:21 am

is there any way of dealing with multiple artists tracks? a track with X and Y as artists should appear as separetad artists in the artists node, no?

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Post by Mizery_Made » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:02 am

in 2.5.5? No. 3.0 will make improvements in this area, though it's only currently in Alpha testing. The 3.0 Alphas are currently using the method of "Artist1;Artist2" to accomplish this.

If your interested in testing the 3.0 Alphas, best read the information about backing up and all that snazz in the 'MediaMonkey 3.0 Testing' topic before doing so.

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Post by gege » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:03 am

This is already supported in MediaMonkey 3.0alpha.
If you have, say, "Beautiful Liar" by "Beyoncé feat. Shakira", just put "Beyoncé;Shakira" in the Artist field and the song will appear in both "Beyoncé" and "Shakira" Artist nodes.

Edit: Mizery_Made was faster than me :)
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Post by snacks » Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:38 pm

I must be doing something wrong. I've been testing all the MM3 Alphas and can't get what your describing to work. I just type in say, "Bird & The Bee;Inara George" and the song comes up under artist "Bird & The Bee;Inara George," not under each individual artist??? Can you recommend what I'm doing wrong? I've been dying for the ability to do this for a mighty long time...
Thanks
P.S. Why can't someone just put in a separate field for a second artist and have the song come up in that artist's node? I know that they have a field for other involved artists, but of course, this doesn't bring the song up in that artists node. I also know that this topic's been talked to death, so I appreciate your time!

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Post by Steegy » Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:58 pm

P.S. Why can't someone just put in a separate field for a second artist and have the song come up in that artist's node? I know that they have a field for other involved artists, but of course, this doesn't bring the song up in that artists node. I also know that this topic's been talked to death, so I appreciate your time!
Then what if there's a third, forth, ... artist?

BTW: It works for me, using MM3 A5 (1045). I just rename track's artist A to A;B which causes the track to appear for artist node A and B.
Extensions: ExternalTools, ExtractFields, SongPreviewer, LinkedTracks, CleanImport, and some other scripts (Need Help with Addons > List of All Scripts).

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Post by Mizery_Made » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:19 pm

The Multi-Artist method I described has worked for me since MM3A1, still works today in MM3A5, so not sure what could be the problem with yours.

As for your comment on a second field for secondary artists, much like Steegy said, what if you have more then 2 artists? Wouldn't really solve anything. I still say the best support for Multi-Artist tracks I have found is Helium Music Manager, but Helium falls at the feet of MediaMonkey in terms of speed, so... :\

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Post by snacks » Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:28 pm

Everything you say makes sense. I un-re-installed Alpha 5 and lo and behold A;B are now coming up as different Artist Nodes just like you said! However, they don't appear in the library panes - only artist A;B does. Oh well - have any of you had any luck with the library panes? And again, thanks for your help.

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Post by mattisse » Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:15 am

Mizery_Made wrote:The Multi-Artist method I described has worked for me since MM3A1, still works today in MM3A5, so not sure what could be the problem with yours.

As for your comment on a second field for secondary artists, much like Steegy said, what if you have more then 2 artists? Wouldn't really solve anything. I still say the best support for Multi-Artist tracks I have found is Helium Music Manager, but Helium falls at the feet of MediaMonkey in terms of speed, so... :\
Helium Music Manager is a great example of how multi-track artist support could/should be implemented. I hope the devs look into this subject again.

The present implementation would be useless for me (although it would be compatible with WMP, but who needs that anyway).

1. You can't distinguish between 2 or more main performers and primary plus secondary (featured) artist with the current method.
2. The cover information (feat., with, presents,...) gets lost
3. The current method with semicolons as dividers simply looks plain ugly and disorderly.

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Post by Mizery_Made » Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:18 am

Amen to that...

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Post by Steegy » Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:51 am

snacks wrote:However, they don't appear in the library panes - only artist A;B does.
You seem to have found a 'bug'. Multiple artists might not be implemented yet for the library panes / collection browser.
Extensions: ExternalTools, ExtractFields, SongPreviewer, LinkedTracks, CleanImport, and some other scripts (Need Help with Addons > List of All Scripts).

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Post by ZvezdanD » Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:09 pm

We, users, don't really want to know anything about some separators.

Developers, please take a look on competative products about realization of multiple artists and other involved persons:

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Post by Tim... » Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:44 pm

ZvezdanD wrote:We, users, don't really want to know anything about some separators.

Developers, please take a look on competative products about realization of multiple artists and other involved persons:

*Image Here (As Previous Post)*
That's probably the best tagging system i have seen. What software did you get this screenshot from?
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Post by DaledeSilva » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:34 am

ZvezdanD wrote:We, users, don't really want to know anything about some separators.
exactly
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Post by ZvezdanD » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:17 am

That's probably the best tagging system i have seen. What software did you get this screenshot from?
Well, I don't want to advertise another media catalog software in this forum, so I am answering you with private message.

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Post by Lowlander » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:34 pm

Feel free to advertise any features from other software with the softwares name so that the other users and developers can see what you are referring too (and maybe try it out).
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