i in no way was telling anyone to use only skins. i was also not saying there are no skins that resemble vista or windows 7, and i am not saying the developers should not keep up with the non skin mode.
when ever some one posts a wish or something dealing with the non skin mode it is my concern they did not even look at the skinned mode of monkey out of habit from use of their old program, so i mention try the skins.
as to asking for images of what they look like it is cause i don't have ipod or itunes vista or win7 and have no idea what they look like unless i see an image. or you tell me in 40,000 words what they look like. i see images and understand images faster then words. so a screen shot with your wish circled in it will let me know what is wanted, and i can tell if that can be made in a skin,. which i might consider doing if possible because there are members that use skins that would like to use a navtive looking skin at some time but want to change to another one later,
that is why i mention skins all the time and why i ask for images of wishes. i don't use non skinned mode as if you needed to be told that.
can you tell me what you mean shiny, i tried to make a few of my skins look shiny already but i'm not sure if i got what you wanted. two skins of mine i know of that i tried the shiny look on.iTunes 8 just looks flat (XP style) against other windows (as does MediaMonkey currently in any theme, except non-themed). I don't mind good themes, but I just want them to fit in with the glossy, shiny, and dimensional look of Aero.
monkey hi fi. is kind of like a dull shine, and on tangerine monkey, the tray is class shiny which one is what you want and where should the shine be placed.
and does not morten's itunes or nohitter151's skins or any of the other itune look alike skins do what you want.?
i don't know what your talking about with a shadow where? how as windows covering the main list view having their shadow on the list view? that is programmed sprites some programs have those in but are only showed up by drivers on certian video cards. take for example the program i used for images of the aqua bluee reef skin i did. the main background images are from the ocean dive game and screensaver program, in that program it has sprites that cause light effects that simulate sunlight hitting the sand under the water where the surface of the water will change the light and move it back and forth with the wave action. now on my skin the only way you can see any sprite action is the bubbles i used. but those are hard images which flash on the screen where i made them with different sized bubbles to get that distance and shine look. this computer i use can not show the sprites programmed in to the ocean view program cause of the old video card i have.
so the only way we can get shine and sprite actions for shadows is to have the developers put the sprites in to the program. but they will only show up on certian video cards. for all other video cards it is up to us skinners to try and make hard images with them on that will show in the skin and give the same effect. like making a 3d skin. the one that i know comes close to this is eyal he has some good 3d skins but not shiny or floating on the screen with shadows that move cause he is like the rest of us stuck at the use of the theme engine and the use of the viewers video card. and no i checked the drivers on the old cards can not be updated to show those sprites the video cards need updated to those used on vista or win7.
or to one of the ones by nvidea or ati that can use the sprites on xp. but no os older then xp is going to be able to see those sprites.
so @ everyone
does that clear up some of the reasons mediamonkey does not show all the effects of vista or win7 and why i metion skins all the time..