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Faster loading time when folder auto-update is enabled

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:50 pm
by AMG
I have 8500+ songs...and one of the features I bought MM for was auto-updating of the library based on folders. The rescan of all music each time I launch is...well...not so cool. Even with a built notebook...it can take 1-2 minutes on each launch.

Not a showstopper...but would be a cool performance improv. for a future version. ;)

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:03 am
by jiri
You can disable the rescan on startup in Options and use only file monitoring while MM is running.

Jiri

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:11 pm
by AMG
I read through your help guide...and it mostly makes sense...however, I almost exclusively add songs while MM isn't running...and from what I understand...I'll have to leave start-up scan enabled to keep having things updated.

The performance is by no means bad, and, I'm not a developer...if there's not an optimization to be made I completely understand. :)

Great product! It does far more than I need...and, it was a pleasure uninstalling iTunes and buying MM!

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:15 am
by Big_Berny
Hi AMG,
well I posted a optimization for the auto-update-function some months ago. Unfortunately the developers didn't answered.

My idea was: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2748

Short Summary: By scanning the sizes of the folders MediaMonkey could see if there were some changes. If the folder size is the same (in bytes), nothing changed.

Example: If you have this structure c:\my music\artist\album and you want to auto-scan the whole my music folder, it should first check, if the size of the my music folder changed. If not, stop scanning. If yes check each artist-folder. If the artist1 folder has changed, check each album folder in this artist1 folder. If not, check directly the artist2 folder.

Big_Berny

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:40 am
by Zebulon
The best thing to do I think is to always add/move/remove files using the browser tree in MM. This way you never have to rescan the library :D

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:09 am
by Big_Berny
That's not completely true! I use an extern tool to tag my files. That's the reason why I need this feature.

Greets
Big_Berny

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:18 am
by onkel_enno
Big_Berny wrote:That's not completely true! I use an extern tool to tag my files. That's the reason why I need this feature.
And why don't you let MM run in Background while Tagging your files with that tool?

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:43 am
by pah68
Big_Berny wrote:That's not completely true! I use an extern tool to tag my files. That's the reason why I need this feature.

Greets
Big_Berny
There's your problem then.

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 4:00 am
by psyXonova
onkel_enno wrote:
Big_Berny wrote:That's not completely true! I use an extern tool to tag my files. That's the reason why I need this feature.
And why don't you let MM run in Background while Tagging your files with that tool?
Onkel, from what I know this requires the File monitor enabled, which is only available on the Gold version and not all people have paid for it...

So, Big Berny, i guess the best sollution is to Tag with MM. After all, MM is a great tool for taggin and renaming so why don't you use it? Or you can always pay the few $$ that are required for Gold version and this way support the project as well!!!

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 4:20 am
by Big_Berny
Yeah, I know! MediaMonkey isn't bad for tagging but there are also much better tools around!
Hmmm... File monitor is a good idea. I've already purchased MM Gold a few months ago, so this could be a solution. :D

But nevertheless I think that auto-updateing could be much faster with some optimizations! Not everyone has the GOLD version and not everyone has Windwos 2000/XP.

Greets
Big_Berny

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:28 pm
by Peke
Big_Berny,
What Tagging Features You need which can be made within MM? (My Personal curiosity as I'm Sometimes using MP3/Tag Studio 3.5 for Ultra fast Tagging, but less and less as most of my needs MM can do with scripting)

I think that File Monitor also Works on Win9x but only on Startup.

a MUST have tagging feature: Auto Complete

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 4:17 am
by fn56
Hi Peke,
See this post for a MUST have tagging feature to include in MM:
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4428

It was requested by many users since a (very) long time ago.

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 8:15 am
by Peke
I miss that feature too, but we'll see when and how it doesn't depend on me.

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:14 am
by Guest
Thanks for the suggested workarounds...I believe the one I'll end up using is to have MM always run in the background. Since it consumes no CPU cycles and <30MB RAM...I'm overly concerned about it.

Philosophically, I would love to have true optimizations to lend to a faster start-up time (something in the realm of 10 seconds wouldn't hurt). However, that would require a very fast relational database to compare file-system data against...and, I respect what that would take to bring into MM.

The workaround is not obnoxious...but, it leads me to a branched feature request...

Please add a feature to have MM startup in minimized to the tray. Displaying the MM logo is cool, but, it would be nice to have it always in the tray if it's going to be an "Always On" app. ;)[/b]

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:16 am
by Guest
quick correction...I'm NOT overly concerned by it. ;)