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Embed MiniLyrics?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:34 am
by lorie
Hello,

I hope this is still on topic of noHitter's Zune skin; in the screenshot, it looks as though MiniLyrics is embedded and thereby part of the MM configuration. How do you do that?

Thanks for any help?

lorie

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:57 am
by Dreadlau
There is a script called minilyrics embedder for that purpose in the script section

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:50 pm
by Fraxav

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:30 pm
by lorie
Superb! I downloaded everything and got it configured so it shows up, etc.

Now my question is more of an MM issue: Does MM not really embed the lyrics in the tag? I have numerous .mp3s that show lyrics in the Lyrics panel of MM but these do not show up in MiniLyrics (or in several other players with lyrics capabilities). Where is MM putting them that they don't show up? In its own DB?

If that is the case, do I have to go through all of the songs and paste the lyrics by hand in MiniLyrics? Many are French songs whose lyrics are not found on the popular lyrics sites--some it has taken me years to find... so the "automatic" features will not work.

Thanks again for any help you can give me.
lorie

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:14 pm
by nohitter151
lorie wrote:Superb! I downloaded everything and got it configured so it shows up, etc.

Now my question is more of an MM issue: Does MM not really embed the lyrics in the tag? I have numerous .mp3s that show lyrics in the Lyrics panel of MM but these do not show up in MiniLyrics (or in several other players with lyrics capabilities). Where is MM putting them that they don't show up? In its own DB?

If that is the case, do I have to go through all of the songs and paste the lyrics by hand in MiniLyrics? Many are French songs whose lyrics are not found on the popular lyrics sites--some it has taken me years to find... so the "automatic" features will not work.

Thanks again for any help you can give me.
lorie
MM does embed the lyrics into the tag (as long as you tell it to, make sure in the options under "Tags & Playlists" that "Update tags when editing properties" is checked). The problem you describe is actually the fault of Minilyrics. You should be able to get your lyrics into that window by right clicking the Minilyrics window, then going to Lyrics -> Load lyrics from mp3. This could become very cumbersome to do with many files. It seems that you just want a window to display stationary lyrics; if so, I recommend you instead try gege's Lyrics and Comment viewer which should display all your lyrics without any problems.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:40 pm
by lorie
Thanks for the suggestion, NoHitter...

Will gege's Viewer play as a docked window in MM? I really like the way MiniLyrics becomes part of the MM layout.

I have tried to right-click the MiniLyrics window, etc. but it comes back with the message that there are "no suitable lyrics" even though I have "saved" them to the tag in MM... And as I mentioned, this problem shows up in other players. I found one that was very cool, played as an overlay atop other windows with the lyrics in a sort of "greybox" panel... It displayed some of my lyrics, did not display others. Repasting the lyrics in MM did not change that... The lyrics simply would not show up. So I'm wondering if different programs read the lyrics from different tag fields (like iTunes apparently puts the art somewhere else than the normal...)?

Thanks again,
lorie

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:30 pm
by nohitter151
Gege's script is a dockable panel in MM, I really think it will work well for you. Try it out, it is an easy install and if you don't like it you can also quite easily uninstall. I will help you more with Minilyrics if gege's script does not suit you.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:09 am
by lorie
You were right spot on... works like a charm. For now, I'll just use gege's Viewer but I would really like to understand why the lyrics saved in MM work sometimes and do not work sometimes in other applications.

Another question: where does MiniLyrics save the synchronized lyrics? That is kind of a neat feature but I want to keep the plain text lyrics in the tag so this might not be the best thing. Just curious.

Thank you so much for your patient replies to my questions.

lorie

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:17 am
by nohitter151
lorie wrote:You were right spot on... works like a charm. For now, I'll just use gege's Viewer but I would really like to understand why the lyrics saved in MM work sometimes and do not work sometimes in other applications.
Glad to point you to gege's viewer. What other examples can you point to where your lyrics do not appear correctly in another application? Minilyrics I believe will show your lyrics if you know the correct operation, I may not have explained it well enough above.
lorie wrote:Another question: where does MiniLyrics save the synchronized lyrics? That is kind of a neat feature but I want to keep the plain text lyrics in the tag so this might not be the best thing. Just curious.

Thank you so much for your patient replies to my questions.

lorie
Minilyrics can be configured to save synchronized lyrics and/or plain lyrics in either mp3 tags or as a separate file on your hard drive which it will link to each time you play that song.

I'm glad to help!

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:51 am
by nohitter151
Big_Berny wrote:Like in drjboulder's configuration the player looks a bit 'ugly'. This also happens to the normal Zune-skin when you resize it but here it happens all the time. Also a restart couldn't help.
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As you can see there are problems around the playbutton (fixed after mouseover), next/previous, loudspeaker, slider and the frame around the whole player. It looks like some of the skinobjects are moved by one pixel...

And it would be cool if we could resize the player a bit because I'd like a bit a larger column for the tree. At the moment I can do that but after restarting the size is always reseted.

Would be cool if you could fix that, it's a nice player! :)
I'm not sure why your resizing isn't saved, AFAIK that is a program function and not a skinning one. Is anyone else having this problem?

Also, I have good news and bad news regarding Zune SP skin - the good news is that I have successfully removed the white border from around the player. The bad news is that I still have no answer for the ugly resizing, I'm convinced its a MM bug. I'm trying various workarounds for now but it might be a while.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:58 am
by rovingcowboy
i have no idea what they mean by ugly? the resizing is part of the program not the skin. all we can do is either lock it or let it resize. if they are complaing about the round circle going to egg shape which i have seen on some of my skins until i fixed the size of the images. that is what you should do fix the size of the image but not the sliding from left to right on resize.
that might help?
:-?


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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:05 am
by nohitter151
rovingcowboy wrote:i have no idea what they mean by ugly? the resizing is part of the program not the skin. all we can do is either lock it or let it resize. if they are complaing about the round circle going to egg shape which i have seen on some of my skins until i fixed the size of the images. that is what you should do fix the size of the image but not the sliding from left to right on resize.
that might help?
:-?
The center of the player is locked, but it resizes by one pixel when the player size is extended to an odd number of pixels. When the player size is an even number of pixels, it looks fine no matter how big you get it. Theres also a resizing problem vertically when the player is docked, although the player should not be able to resize vertically.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:15 pm
by lorie
NoHitter wrote:
Minilyrics can be configured to save synchronized lyrics and/or plain lyrics in either mp3 tags or as a separate file on your hard drive which it will link to each time you play that song.

I'm glad to help!
NoHitter, I've decided to go with gege's LyricsViewer but now I cannot get rid of MiniLyrics. I used its Uninstall script, I even purged the registry of every instance of "minilyrics" but when I start MM, the embedded MiniLyrics window shows up, then an error message that says:

"MiniLyrics couldn't be embedded; possibly its window, or the embedder window, isn't visible"

The option is still visible on the VIEW menu as well. There is obviously somewhere in MM that still thinks it is installed, available and needs to start.

How do I get rid of it?

And then to throw a monkey wrench into the works-- Is it possible to have MiniLyrics (not embedded) open only for WMP? I do like the "stays on top" feature that would display the lyrics while the player is minimized and I am working on something else...

lorie

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:18 pm
by nohitter151
You uninstalled Minilyrics but you must also uninstall the Minilyrics embedder (which is a MM script unrelated to the actual Minilyrics program.) Go to your Add/Remove Programs in the control panel and uninstall "Mediamonkey Script: Minilyrics Embedder v1.4b".

You can have Minilyrics open only for WMP. When you install the program, uncheck every box except for the install for WMP option. After the program is installed, open Minilyrics and right click inside of it. Go to "Preference" and check only the Windows Media Player box under "Run Minilyrics when Players run".

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:28 pm
by lorie
Thanks, nohitter. Actually, I had to reinstall MiniLyrics and the embedder because there was no entry in the Control Panel (I was pretty sure I had checked there before...) After reinstall, I deleted it from the control panel and voilĂ ! It's gone from MM. Yeah!

Not to beat a dead horse but I would like some help with the fact that lyrics saved in MM do not always show up in MiniLyrics. Should I start a new thread or PM you or what would you suggest? I am going to try again, paying close attention to what I am doing to see if I can figure out why it works sometimes and sometimes not.

Appreciate all of your help; It is so great to have forums like this. So much better than the BIG GUYS "Help" solutions...

lorie