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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:02 pm
by nohitter151
VitreousBlue v1.0.0.1 - 6/6/08
-Player can now be undocked

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:06 pm
by drjboulder
Just in case anyone was wondering or is a word junkie:
Vitreous
adj.
1. Of, relating to, resembling, or having the nature of glass; glassy.
2. Obtained or made from glass.
3. Of or relating to the vitreous humor.
Once again Nh, very nice work! School must be out?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:59 pm
by nohitter151
drjboulder wrote:Just in case anyone was wondering or is a word junkie:
Vitreous
adj.
1. Of, relating to, resembling, or having the nature of glass; glassy.
2. Obtained or made from glass.
3. Of or relating to the vitreous humor.
Once again Nh, very nice work! School must be out?
Thanks Drock :D . Yeah, school is out now so I've had quite a bit more time than usual, though I am still working. The difference now is no homework or crazy 6 hour study sessions at the library :wink: .

Regarding the name: I initially was thinking of something along the lines of "Blue Glass", but I couldn't use that for obvious reasons. So I came up with VitreousBlue instead, which I thought was good because the name sticks out. The V in Vitreous also pays some homage to Vista, and of course, the 'Blue' leaves the skin open to other color possibilities ... :wink:

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:24 pm
by drjboulder
nohitter151 wrote:Yeah, school is out now so I've had quite a bit more time than usual
Guess that means I should be expecting my Small Player anytime soon!!! :wink:

I think I hear some Monkeys chanting....
Small Player, Small Player, Small Player,....
:D

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:11 am
by Kilmatead
drjboulder wrote:Just in case anyone was wondering or is a word junkie:
Vitreous
adj.
1. Of, relating to, resembling, or having the nature of glass; glassy.
2. Obtained or made from glass.
3. Of or relating to the vitreous humor.
My personal favourite would be the medieval interpretation of Defenestration: The action of throwing things or people out of windows. Something to inspire Harry Clarke into making stronger glass, maybe.

Vitreous humor? As in the antithesis of the black bile of melancholia? Democritus might have something to say on that.

Apropos de rien, as usual. Just thought I'd add that, whilst rambling.

Nice work on the skin, nohitter. (Yeah, even curmudgeons give compliments!)

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:30 am
by drjboulder
Kilmatead wrote:Vitreous humor? As in the antithesis of the black bile of melancholia? Democritus might have something to say on that.
black bile
One of the four humors of ancient and medieval physiology, supposed to cause melancholy when present in excess.
The Greek natural philosopher Democritus (ca. 494-ca. 404 B.C.) promulgated the atomic theory, which asserted that the universe is composed of two elements: the atoms and the void in which they exist and move.
The vitreous humour (British spelling) or vitreous humor (U.S. spelling) is the clear gel that fills the space between the lens and the retina of the eyeball of humans and other vertebrates. It is often referred to as the vitreous body or simply "the vitreous".
"Blue gel that fills the space between the lens and the retina of the eyeball of humans and other vertebrates" - probably not the best name for a skin!

Alright... no more word play in this thread from me...

Just a big compliment

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:34 am
by thorgal67
Well, i was really searching for something like that and i'm a fan of this skin. I've instantly installed it and won't change from now on ...
Just thank you for this outstanding work. regards. Thorgal.

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:39 am
by Bex
nohitter151 wrote:VitreousBlue v1.0.0.1 - 6/6/08
-Player can now be undocked
Very nice, thanks!

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:22 am
by Muther
Just as an FYI for me can you explain what you had to "fix" to make it work? I'm new to skinning and tiring to learn as I go.... LOL I had moved your player into another theme (just to see if I could) and changed the INI to make it movable and did notice a jumping..... have since replaced it with your new one but can't see any obvious change, a hint will do if you don't want to go into it....:)


By the way I love the player .... very cool! The only thing I would like to see if I can change is to add the visual do-ma-hicky... You know just to see if I can. I have found that if I hack at things long enough and hard enough I can eventually bend them to my will

I lied... I also want to make the vol control a bit more "seeable" and also make the mute button more obvious by either moving it or making it lighter in color ... or both.

By the way I frankinstined your player into the softblue skin and it works like a charm

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:32 am
by Muther
Not to be a pain in the .... but the images for shuffle and continuous play seem to be backwards to me...... when you turn on shuffle you get the two strait arrows in stead of the crossed ones..... visually indicating that shuffle is off? is this how you wanted it?

and I love all the buttons up there, it might be a "80's guy" thing but anything that plays music should have a lot of buttons and light up really cool in the dark.... and shiny is always preferable. LMAO

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:27 am
by nohitter151
Muther wrote:Just as an FYI for me can you explain what you had to "fix" to make it work? I'm new to skinning and tiring to learn as I go.... LOL I had moved your player into another theme (just to see if I could) and changed the INI to make it movable and did notice a jumping..... have since replaced it with your new one but can't see any obvious change, a hint will do if you don't want to go into it....:)


By the way I love the player .... very cool! The only thing I would like to see if I can change is to add the visual do-ma-hicky... You know just to see if I can. I have found that if I hack at things long enough and hard enough I can eventually bend them to my will

I lied... I also want to make the vol control a bit more "seeable" and also make the mute button more obvious by either moving it or making it lighter in color ... or both.

By the way I frankinstined your player into the softblue skin and it works like a charm
Actually I was able to roll out the update so quickly because the first thing I tried worked, which was to just change DockLock=1 to DockLock=0. I know that it wasn't working before, but it seems to be fine now. The theme engine can be so finicky sometimes...
Muther wrote:Not to be a pain in the .... but the images for shuffle and continuous play seem to be backwards to me...... when you turn on shuffle you get the two strait arrows in stead of the crossed ones..... visually indicating that shuffle is off? is this how you wanted it?

and I love all the buttons up there, it might be a "80's guy" thing but anything that plays music should have a lot of buttons and light up really cool in the dark.... and shiny is always preferable. LMAO
I contemplated for a long time over the state of those shuffle and continuous buttons, because I tried the buttons both ways and neither seemed intuitive (strangely enough!) In the end I decided it was best to make the buttons match what the play/pause button displays, which is to make the button look like what it does. When you want to play a song, the 'play' button is up - when you press it, music plays; similarly when the 'shuffle' button is up, press it and it will shuffle your playback.

Thanks for the compliments btw!

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:23 am
by Muther
nohitter151 wrote:I contemplated for a long time over the state of those shuffle and continuous buttons, because I tried the buttons both ways and neither seemed intuitive (strangely enough!) In the end I decided it was best to make the buttons match what the play/pause button displays, which is to make the button look like what it does. When you want to play a song, the 'play' button is up - when you press it, music plays; similarly when the 'shuffle' button is up, press it and it will shuffle your playback.


Yeah I figured that it was a process and you had your reasons for doing it... just IMHO the shuffle and continuous buttons are also indicators and should reflect the current state of the feature. The play/pause buttons make perfect scence to me but I don't rely on looking at them to see if there on. if it's playing I can hear it. (when I remember to turn my speakers on....LOL) but I do look to the shuffle button to indicate what state it is in cause I wont know till the next song starts.

I'm assuming that I can just go into the theme editor and switch a couple of values to change this assuming it is possible and also that you wont mind me doing it...LOL

again just my preference and probably a bit picky on my part, I hope you don't mind me hacking and slashing on your work. I'm hoping to one day have the skill and taste to design my own players and skins but we all got to start some where and I decided to start with yours as it's the best I have seen to date. both the player and the mini-player are by far my pick for both form and function. for being called nohitter you really hit one out of the park here.... :D


by the by...... the rating stars either aren't working right or are just to dark for my old eyes to see the difference they seem right in the mini-player or at least I can see the difference but in the main player the stars don't seem to be reflecting the current rating of the song that is playing again it may be but I cant see it to hard to tell. The function of setting the rating works and I can see the hot images when I mouse over I just cant see the results...LOL

aside from adding the visualization, because I really like shiny flashy things and changing the mute button and the volume control for the old and rickety vision impaired set this is just perfect!


again I hope you don't mind my input. there just my opinions and we all know about those....:)

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:39 pm
by nohitter151
Yeah just open the theme editor (opening player.mskn) and switch the names (shufflebutton_up to shufflebutton_down & vice versa) - and repeat with the continuous buttons.

The rating stars are working, you probably just can't see the difference in color between the blue and gray. I'll try lightening the stars a little but its much easier said than done because of the way the stars have to be skinned...

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:36 am
by BMF
hello,

unfortunately i get the following error message, when i try to download this wonderful skin. I've tried several times in the last days. I even allowed to set cookies.

"We're sorry, but we were unable to locate the attachment you requested."

Any ideas what went wrong?

greetings from berlin

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:27 am
by Sblast
Really sweet!
Thank you