Using skins with visual styles

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Using skins with visual styles

Post by Fraxav » Tue May 19, 2009 1:42 pm

Hi,
I just installed a visual style for Win XP and I noticed that it has some 'confilcts' with the skins in MM (at least Glided and VistreousBlue):

Switching from the microplayer view to the main window, you can notice some space between the task bar and the bottom of the window. You can resize the window but it would solve the problem until the next switch from microplayer to main window. This is likely caused by the new taskbar being smaller in height then the default one for XP.
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Here I highlighted a piece of that space that shouldn't be there.

The second flaw is given by some titles in the options menu: the character changes according to my visual style and since there's not enough space, it will end up in a truncated title.
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Here you can see that the title (Playlist) uses the font of my visual style (if you cannot see it, trust me, it does) and this causes the sides of the word to be cutted off. Longer sentences are obviously a lot more unreadable.

The skin Blue Glass is not giving such problems (no empty space between window and taskbar; titles are not affectd, so I guess it's something a skinner could fix for it's skin.
So, it would be cool if Morten could fix it in Glided and than update the MM installer with the new version. Other skinners can also check their skins if they feel like.

P.S. Unlike VitreousBlue and Blue Glass, Glided changes its scroll bars according to the visual style, too. This can be cool, but it is not if your visual style is way different from your MM skin.

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Re: Using skins with visual styles

Post by Eyal » Tue May 19, 2009 3:33 pm

Fraxav wrote:I just installed a visual style for Win XP
Hi Fraxav, can you provide more info please. What kind and which visual style? Maybe you can provide a link so we can try it.

Thanks
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Re: Using skins with visual styles

Post by Fraxav » Tue May 19, 2009 4:31 pm

I'm not sure how a single style can help, since (i.e.) taskbars may have different heights. I guess skinners should instead set an option like 'always detect the right height'...I don't know.
Anyway, here it is. It a simple .msstyles file, so no special programs needed.
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Re: Using skins with visual styles

Post by rovingcowboy » Tue May 19, 2009 8:32 pm

not mediamonkey skinning errors. 8)

microsoft is at fault :(

well i said m$ but i mean the one that created the skin for windows explorer. they changed things in it to make it look different. monkey is using the normal settings for the windows explorer shell. 8)
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Re: Using skins with visual styles

Post by Fraxav » Wed May 20, 2009 8:33 am

All right cowboy, I thought the same thing too. But Blue Glass (one of the three skins boundled in the installer with MM3) works good (surely it has no font issues). So probably who made Blue Glass used something that can prevent the visual style to do whatever he likes (saying it in your way).
Other skinners could use it too.
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Re: Using skins with visual styles

Post by DreadM » Wed May 20, 2009 10:58 am

Greetings

I think the scrollbar and combobox font problem in glided skin comes from the non skined/definated objects inside the Theme,mskn,so MM use the windows style.
For the main window i got no idea.

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Re: Using skins with visual styles

Post by rovingcowboy » Wed May 20, 2009 11:12 pm

Fraxav wrote:All right cowboy, I thought the same thing too. But Blue Glass (one of the three skins boundled in the installer with MM3) works good (surely it has no font issues). So probably who made Blue Glass used something that can prevent the visual style to do whatever he likes (saying it in your way).
Other skinners could use it too.
the blueglass that came with the install as far as i know and have seen is the original skin created along time ago.
and is not using the virtual tree like the gilded skin is.
so it would be more close to the windows explorer settings. just why it works is not known if that is not it.

try another skin that was made from the same ini file of the blueglass one. i think irishjet did a Boston skin from that blueglass one. see if that one works. :-?
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