MM4 still supported?

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Re: MM4 still supported?

Post by Peke »

Hi,

Re Auto-Tag: You can click on Album/Artist/Title/... to edit and it will show you available finds.

Re Discogs: I think it is in work by developer of MM4 one, but no estimate time when it will be released

Re Remove Disk #: I have not observed that and you can Disable Disk # under Options in Auto-Tag.

Re Zero Pad: It depends on user preference, but I know why some prefer Zero padded Track/Disk #. I personally prefer to have full control over Zero padding when do Filename manipulation (eg. Auto Organize) and have tags non padded.

Let me know if you have more questions and suggestions?
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Re: MM4 still supported?

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Re 32 bit: To my understanding, we may release a 64 bit version in the future, but doing so will require twice the amount of testing. Additionally, there aren't many performance benefits to a 64 bit program over 32 bit, and ideally we don't want MM5 to require 4GB RAM anyways.
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Re: MM4 still supported?

Post by alienbiker99 »

Hello,

Since it was asked in this thread about reasons for not moving to MM5 full time.

Is there any plans to improve the auto tag interface in MM5?

The MM4 interface is so much more intuitive and allows for batch updating albums in a few seconds.

The MM5 interface is miles slower. Each track has to be individually checked and just is not intuitive when coming from the previous system that worked so well.

MM4 is my library manager for tagging as it can pull in data from musicbrainz. MM4 tends to be more intuitive and quicker to use than the musicbrainz picard tool as well, in my opinion.

That is probably the biggest factor for me not moving to MM5 full time.

Thank you for your consideration
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Re: MM4 still supported?

Post by Lowlander »

Auto-Tag from Web is done via a Third Party Addon in MediaMonkey 4 instead of via a build in method available again in MediaMonkey 5. Third Parties can still develop their own Auto-Tag options in MediaMonkey 5, but the one for MediaMonkey 4 has not been updated for MediaMonkey 5.
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Re: MM4 still supported?

Post by alienbiker99 »

alright thanks. I'll continue to use MM4 for my tagging needs for the the foreseeable future, thanks.
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Re: MM4 still supported?

Post by charlieMOGUL »

Here's my 2 cents.

I have a collection of around 55000 tracks. In general, I use MediaMonkey to extensively tag and organize music - less so for actual playing. Therefor, for me the organization part is way more important than the player part.
MediaMonkey 5 seems to be focused on the player part, and less on the organization / maintenance of a large library.

Extensions I often use are
+ Advanced Duplicate Find and Fix
+ Discogs Tagger
+ Last 100...
+ PlayHistory & Stats
+ Custom Fields Tagger"

In general, the interface of MediaMonkey 5 feels slower. To me at least it is less intuitive to quickly change. For instance I can't seem to figure out in MediaMonkey 5 how to customize the 'simplified' list in "Playing list" (e.g. a summary of title - artist - mood - genre instead of different fixed-width columns).

It could be that the learning curve is somewhat steep and that there are also advantages of using MM5, but for now, I do not see any need nor reason to change to 4. MediaMonkey 4 does exactly what I would like it to do: Be a ROCKSTAR in organizing and maintaining a large music database.
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Re: MM4 still supported?

Post by drakinite »

As a reply to the comments from all of you:
Thank you for the honest criticism and feedback. Know that I've read each of your replies. We'll continue to work on MM5, its feature set and its repository of addons, and I hope that you'll be more satisfied next time you give it a shot.
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Re: MM4 still supported?

Post by yarguy »

charlieMOGUL wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:45 am MediaMonkey 5 seems to be focused on the player part, and less on the organization / maintenance of a large library.
Except they made the player part much less useful for classical music. In MM4 you can play a whole composition with multiple parts (and hence tracks) with one click using the linked tracks add-on. (This also allows shuffle of compositions rather than just tracks.) Nothing comparable exists in MM5 even though the need for such was stressed to the developers early in the MM5 process. Since there are a number of players that do support whole composition playing (roon and audirvana to name two I have used) there is a real issue with using MM5. I would continue to use MM4 but it doesn't support audio chromecast - hence roon (which does) is my goto. But MM4 is still useful for syncing to the old ipod touch I use for my truck.
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