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Volume normalisation

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 5:49 am
by MonkeyPeter
Hello, I'm wondering if there's anything in your (wonderful) program that can normalise the volume on a batch of MP3s.

What I want to do is burn them onto a CD to play in the car, but their volumes range from +2 to -12db (from the 'analyse volume' tool).

I don't want them compressed or levelled within each file, just have the peak levels normalised across all files.

From what I can gather from the help file, the volume levelling tool in MM only works when the MP3s are played back with MM.

If, as seems to be the case, MM doesn't do this, does anyone know something else that does?

Cheers, Peter

I found something

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 6:13 am
by MonkeyPeter
Without wanting to sound like a complete tosser, just after I posted the above, I found a link to this: http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/

It's a freebie, and from the comments I've heard, it sounds like the business.

Cheers, Peter

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 6:31 am
by jiri
MediaMonkey 2.2 (currently in the beta stage) supports this feature, volume levelling can be applied directly to the MP3 files.

Jiri

Hmmmm

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:31 am
by Plethora
:-? Just so I understand...

.... This will ensure that the Player will adjust the volume level using the calculated coefficient. Note that Volume leveling is only supported for the MediaMonkey player--it is not supported in Winamp

Does MM change the file when it normalizes? or is this another file that alters the volume level of MM.

Does MM alter the MP3 files with its coefficient? If so is there a way the original MP3 can be adjusted without altering the file?

Any Information would be great.

-Plethora

HA I found it!!!

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:40 am
by Plethora
:wink:

1. Calculate the perceived loudness of each track
2. Convert this to a suggested replay gain adjustment
3. Store this value within the header of the audio file
4. The player adjusts the volume of each track accordingly

This is what happens... the file is changed but not the audio itself. So if I were to burn a CD from the audio file in MM the volume would be normalized?

If I burn a CD from another program the audio will not be normalized?

Thnx for ur time
-Plethora

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:44 am
by Pablo
Starting with MM 2.2, the user will have two options for volume leveling:

Option 1. Store volume information in the database (not in the track). Under this option, there would be no adjustment at all when tracks are played outside MM (say in Winamp, burned CD, portable device, etc). Even inside MM, this type of normalization can be deactivated. This is the only option available in MM 2.1 and earlier.

Option 2. Update the tracks themselves. This will make changes permanent, both in MM and in external applications/devices. This is the new option offered in MM 2.2.

There's really a third option, don't do volume analysis/normalization at all.

Of course, nothing prevents you from combining the two options or applying them selectively. I would be wary of using option 2 for original tracks since there's no way back, but what I would do is: copy the files I want to burn on CD, update volume on copied files and burn (so the originals remain unchanged, but the CD has the volume normalized).

Pablo