1256 Bogus rating attribute in WMA [#5977]

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1256 Bogus rating attribute in WMA [#5977]

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If I set the rating of a WMA track in Now Playing, MM writes a "SBD/Rating" attribute - this fails to accord with the Help "table of all properties stored in the Library vs. which properties are stored in Tags."

Tracked at http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=5977

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So, MediaMonkey uses the rating field as the WMA standard set it and now it's not good? Seems to me that that just the Help needs to be updated.
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> So, MediaMonkey uses the rating field as the WMA standard

Uh?? There's no mention of this SBD/Rating attribute there.
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'SDB/Rating' is necessary in order to store more precise rating that just full stars (i.e. half-stars). For compatibility reasons this can't be done in the WM/SharedUserRating attribute.

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Thanks. If you have an accurate table of properties used by MM, it would useful if you would publish it for users.
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Re: 1256 Bogus rating attribute in WMA [#5977]

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chrisjj wrote:Tracked at http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=5977

Marked Fixed.
Though marked fixed, and the Help now says:
WMA Rating
Yes [full stars] (SharedUserRating)
Non standard [Half-stars] (SDB/Rating)
the issue remains for the case of zero stars. For zero stars MM sets the standard property WM/SharedUserRating to one - the same at it sets for one star. This non-standard behaviour causes interoperability failure with other apps:

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Also it sets the non-standard SDB/Rating, which it should not, since it is not a half-star value

Tracked at:
Rating zero stars sets incorrect standard tag property: http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=12159
Rating zero stars sets incorrectly adds a non-standard tag property http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=12161
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Re: 1256 Bogus rating attribute in WMA [#5977]

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chrisjj wrote:the issue remains for the case of zero stars.
Reported fixed at http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=12159
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Re: 1256 Bogus rating attribute in WMA [#5977]

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chrisjj wrote: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:19 pm Rating zero stars sets incorrect standard tag property: http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=12159
Marked fixed. Thanks.
chrisjj wrote: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:19 pmRating zero stars sets incorrectly adds a non-standard tag property http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=12161
Eight years later, this still shows unassigned and open.
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Re: 1256 Bogus rating attribute in WMA [#5977]

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Eight years later, this still shows unassigned and open.
Right, closed now as there doesn't seem to be any change needed.

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Re: 1256 Bogus rating attribute in WMA [#5977]

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jiri wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:38 am Right, closed now
I now see "Resolution no change required", surprisingly.
jiri wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:38 amas there doesn't seem to be any change needed.
What makes you think no change is needed?
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Re: 1256 Bogus rating attribute in WMA [#5977]

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I tried to explain in Mantis. The documentation doesn't state that non-standard tags aren't present when standard tags are, so from my point of view it's correctly documented. Whether it's good from user's perspective, I guess it depends on use case.

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Re: 1256 Bogus rating attribute in WMA [#5977]

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jiri wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 2:45 am I tried to explain in Mantis.
Thanks. Just saw your Mantis comment that is subsequent to mine above. I'll reply there when my Mantis access is restored.
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