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Normally, this wouldn't be too much of an issue, since the computer is restarting (except for the fact that any crash makes MM forget its position in the NP list; would be nice if it saved position more often...), except that this crash prevents a restart or shut down from continuing, often kicking Windows back to desktop (and then I lose the record of my open Explorer windows).

https://www.dropbox.com/s/17pqslaa92kq3 ... 2.jpg?dl=0

This has been an issue through the last couple dozen builds, but it's still true with 2138.

Hi,
and 2145?

Still happens in 2146.

Will check.

Just updated to 2161, still happening. I even tried a fresh, non-portable installation, and the crash still happened, but Windows was somehow able to automatically close it down, unlike with the portable installations.

Confirmed still consistent in 2164.

Hi,
Can you please rename Persistent.json file to 1persistent.json file and try again?

Still did it, and, for the record, a new persistent.json was never written.

Tracked as 15538.

malkierian wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:59 pm Still did it, and, for the record, a new persistent.json was never written.

Are you sure that you deleted right one as newer MM5 versions allow normal install not just portable?

Yes, because I installed over my portable installation with the new installer in portable mode. It did reset my UI to a certain extent when I removed it.

Hi,
Try to rename MM.DB in portable folder and start MM5. if New MM.DB is created then you are using portable install if not that installation is flagged as Normal.

I didn't think I needed another confirmation that my installation was portable (I firmly remember checking the option for portable installation on install), but I went ahead and did it anyway, and yes, it is a portable installation.