Album Artist drop-down list fails to display a particular item

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lcurry
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Album Artist drop-down list fails to display a particular item

Post by lcurry » Sat May 18, 2019 12:01 pm

! Various Artists !
The exclamation marks are how I push this item to the top of the Album Artist drop-down list in the Album Artist box on the Properties sheet

For a long time, this item did appear atop the Album Artist drop-down list, but about a year ago it disappeared
It reappeared briefly once for a short time before going back into hibernation
It does NOT appear without the exclamation marks, way down the list as Various Artists

I have optimized the library (Quick & Complete) with no change
The item always shows up atop the list for Album Artist node of the Media Tree
No other item seems to be similarly affected.

I had an occasion to use ! Various Artists ! in the Artist data entry box on the Properties sheet and from that, the item always appears on the Artist drop-down list

This is, of course, only a minor imposition, but if the problem solution is known, I'd appreciate the assistance.

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Re: Album Artist drop-down list fails to display a particular item

Post by Lowlander » Sat May 18, 2019 12:12 pm

Does any file in your Library have this value assigned? Only assigned values show.
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Re: Album Artist drop-down list fails to display a particular item

Post by lcurry » Sat May 18, 2019 12:38 pm

Yes there are numerous albums in the library that use this item (over 25K files)

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Re: Album Artist drop-down list fails to display a particular item

Post by Lowlander » Sat May 18, 2019 1:00 pm

Which version of MediaMonkey? It works for me on 4.1.25 beta.
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Re: Album Artist drop-down list fails to display a particular item

Post by lcurry » Sat May 18, 2019 4:35 pm

no luck with 4.1.25 beta

however, now (as per my observation above that the Artist drop down did work), the Artist drop down does not show ! Various Artists ! anymore

One other observation: for quite a while after the initial problem, I used a variation:
! Various Artists ! [See Comment] -- this displayed for a time while the other one did not.
Now neither shows up in the drop-down lists.

The Artist node in Media Tree and the Artist drop-down list are identical except for the first two
! Various Artists !
! Various Artists ! [See Comment]
These appear in the Artist node but not the Artist drop-down list

Also the Album Artist node and the Album Artist drop-down list are nowhere near the same: some listings are in one or the other but not both (omissions on both)

Thanks for your help (as always!)

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Re: Album Artist drop-down list fails to display a particular item

Post by Lowlander » Sat May 18, 2019 6:32 pm

Make sure you're working with the correct Collection. Try Entire Library (enable under File > Manage Collections) and see if the values now are present.
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Re: Album Artist drop-down list fails to display a particular item

Post by lcurry » Sat May 18, 2019 7:19 pm

Entire Library had been enabled and I was working off of the Artist and Album Artist nodes under Entire Library throughout my struggles here...

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Re: Album Artist drop-down list fails to display a particular item

Post by Lowlander » Sat May 18, 2019 7:48 pm

Strange, it works for me. It likely is some database issue.
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Re: Album Artist drop-down list fails to display a particular item

Post by lcurry » Sun May 19, 2019 12:32 pm

Lowlander, I noticed that elsewhere you recommended MM 5 to someone because of its database repair features

Is this something I should try? Is it just a matter of doing a Complete Optimization as before?

Thanks

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Re: Album Artist drop-down list fails to display a particular item

Post by Lowlander » Sun May 19, 2019 2:51 pm

I believe that this can no longer be done, which is why I didn't recommend it this time. If I'm not mistaken the MM5 database is no longer backwards compatible.
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