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Playlist feature [#16594]

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:41 am
by MusicFanPeter
It would be nice, when syncing playlists to a device, it would be possible to create a subfolder for each playlist and his tracks. Meaning all tracks of the playlist are in the same subfolder as the playlist. Thus, it won't disturb the other music folders, which in my case are formatted <Artist Album> <Album> ...

Re: Playlist feature

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 3:47 am
by Barry4679
MusicFanPeter wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 12:41 am It would be nice, when syncing playlists to a device, it would be possible to create a subfolder for each playlist and his tracks. Meaning all tracks of the playlist are in the same subfolder as the playlist. Thus, it won't disturb the other music folders, which in my case are formatted <Artist Album> <Album> ...
I haven't tested this, but MM5 seems to handle most of this request.

You can configure the sync location, and folder hierarchy, for your device, see here.
The >> button opens up a file name wizard, where you can set rules for the naming of the device folder, and the file hierarchy, that MM5 will sync to.

AFAICS you can't use the playlist name to to automatically be part of the output folder name, but you could use something like
  • \Music\MyXXPlaylist\<Album Artist>\<Album>,
  • or something like \Music\<Auto Number>\<Album Artist>\<Album>

Re: Playlist feature

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 9:26 am
by MusicFanPeter
Thanks for your reply.

This way my synced albums are getting mixed up with my synced playlists. I would like to avoid this. I usually play my music on my device by choosing folders.

Re: Playlist feature

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 9:38 am
by Barry4679
MusicFanPeter wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 9:26 am This way my synced albums are getting mixed up with my synced playlists. I would like to avoid this. I usually play my music on my device by choosing folders
Oh, OK, sorry, I misunderstood your issue.

I only sync albums to my device. ... I too choose by folders ... so the folder structure, from the sync, is my "playlist" I suppose.

Re: Playlist feature

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 9:50 am
by MusicFanPeter
Yes, in the sync profile for playlists I choose at 'Destination directory' Playlist. If the corresponding tracks are put in this folder, this would be great. Maybe per playlist an own folder (foldername could be playlistname). Thus, this structure would not disturb the synced albums.

Re: Playlist feature

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 4:45 pm
by Lowlander
You can use <Playlist> in the Mask to create Playlist folders. Do note though that if a file exists on multiple Playlists that it only gets synced once.

Haven't tried but $If(<Playlist>,\<Playlist>\) may do the trick of only creating the Playlist folder when the files is on a Playlist.

Re: Playlist feature

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 7:26 am
by Ludek
Lowlander wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 4:45 pm You can use <Playlist> in the Mask to create Playlist folders. Do note though that if a file exists on multiple Playlists that it only gets synced once.
That is not true, the file is synced/copied twice when it is on two playlists.

You can use mask like this:
\Music\Playlists\<Playlist>\<Auto Number> - $Left(<Artist>,20) - <Title>

This will also auto number the files to have the order as in the playlist(s) ;-)

EDIT: I also entered https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=16594 so that users can be aware that this feature is actually implemented, just hidden -- so hard to realize.

Re: Playlist feature

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 9:00 am
by MusicFanPeter
The option: \Music\Playlists\<Playlist>\<Auto Number> - $Left(<Artist>,20) - <Title> still places my playlist tracks and album tracks in one folder. The problem starts when I play my music on my device on which I select a folder to play. Using selection by Album or Artist instead of folder on my device is just not working for me. A clean split between synced playlist tracks and other synced tracks (I choose the option via location) would be nice.

Re: Playlist feature

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 11:49 am
by Lowlander
Are files the files not selected via the Playlists also selected via the Playlists? Ie. you selected an Album to be synced, but the files on the Album are also on a Playlist to be synced?

Re: Playlist feature

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 12:55 pm
by MusicFanPeter
My tracks are availabe in folders in this setup: \Album Artist\Album x. All tracks have good metadata, though I choose syncing with my device via the MM5 option: Location. This way I am sure all track are selected for syncing.

My playlists indeed contain some tracks which are also in the folders I sync. In MM5 they are also getting mixed up in the solution Ludek mentioned.

I would prefer the folderstructure on my device like this:

For albums, syncing tracks selected via Location:
\Music\Album Artist\Album\filename; this is working just fine in MM5, when not using syncing playlists. On my device I choose playing by folder when I want to listen to an album.

For playlists:
\Playlists\Playlistname\file.m3u and corresponding tracks. On my device I choose the playlistname to listen to the tracks.

In MM5 the playlists do not have a separate setup for folderstructure, the music setup is also used for playlists. This way the tracks get mixed up with each other. Changing the setup structure each time will not work for me, because the option of deletion other files and playlists on the device in MM5 cannot be used.

Re: Playlist feature

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 1:09 pm
by Lowlander
Then this may work based on Ludek's statement:

$If(<Playlist>,\<Playlist>\,\<Album Artist>\<Album>\)<Filename>

However in my experience, when I used a Playlist folder setup (which was with MM4), it synced only 1 copy of a file to the device thus it would appear in 1 of the matching locations from the Mask used (in my case 1 of the Playlist folders as I only sync Playlists).

Re: Playlist feature

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:09 pm
by MusicFanPeter
Hello Lowlander, Ludek,

Thank you for your replies.
Lowlander, you reached the requested structure with your latest profile setup. The only thing is, which you already mentioned, the tracks which are in the playlist and albums, are only copied/synced once. I'm missing the tracks in the album structure.
When I adjust the profile with <Auto Number> (just before <Filename>) the tracks which are in the Playlist and Album, will be double copied to the playlist structure and are missing in the Album folders.

Still any ideas to resolve this problem?