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Re: ARTISTSORT Tag field [#9064][#2915]

by Peke » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:10 am

Hi,
I wish that it is as simple as you put it out.

Those sort fields are non visual, tied to devices preferring Apple iTunes, our preliminary tests maintaining and supporting those fields on for example 120k and larger tracks library generate double CPU cycles and non needed lag and take very important time from developing MM5 along with introducing non needed risk of regression ATM.

Re: ARTISTSORT Tag field [#9064][#2915]

by awlongo » Sun Aug 19, 2018 12:35 pm

It is frustrating to learn that the music tags, "sort artist name", sort "sort album artist" and "sort album" were never consider essential. Anyone that cares how their library is organized would want to sort in that manner; it is BASIC. What's insanely worse is that this is a standard feature in iTunes.

Forget MM version 5.X, you need to have this now, 4.1.22. I can easily provide you an endless list of examples that make this feature essential, but one thought I leave you with, why can't I have "Wings" sorted under McCartney, Paul? Get with it guys, I just shelled $25 bucks out to you.

The guy (developer) who will be left standing is the guy who will fully integrate ID3V2 tagging into the player's fields. Don't you think?

Re: ARTISTSORT Tag field [#9064][#2915]

by PeterXXX » Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:29 pm

Hi Peke, as far as I know the tags ARTISTSORT, ALBUMARTISTSORT, COMPOSERSORT, ... are common tag fields and very useful in maintaining big libraries. To fill them in I have to use 'mp3tag'. I moved my library to a Synology-NAS where 'minim server' is running for UPnP/DLNA connectivity, also supporting these tags.
Checking the forum for ARTISTSORT showed some thausend entries from 2010 to now, most of them putting it on the wishlist.
Could it be so difficult integrating these tags into MM and treating them the same way as the original tags ARTIST and so on?
For years I'm still a fan of MM which I still use to maintain my music, but would rather like to find John McLauglin under McLauglin, John and J.S. Bach under Bach, J.S.
Also the problems with multiple values in ARTIST or ALBUMARTIST are already solved.
Kind regards, Peter

Re: ARTISTSORT Tag field [#9064]

by Lowlander » Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:55 pm

Re: ARTISTSORT Tag field [#9064]

by Peke » Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:42 pm

Only app that we know use it is one that introduced them eg. iTunes. Feature is planned for MM5.

Re: ARTISTSORT Tag field [#9064]

by ngs428 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:00 pm

Is this supported yet?

Re: ARTISTSORT Tag field [#9064]

by feline1 » Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:08 pm

I'm really quite surprised to discover that MediaMonkey doesn't yet support these Sort tags! :o
Surely its elementary functonality for any kind of librarian software (for anything, not just for music and video)?

Re: ARTISTSORT Tag field [#9064]

by psychoadept » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:41 pm

Just thought I'd point out that while this would be my ideal, implementing artistsort, albumsort, tracksort, etc could solve the same problem without requiring a lot of complicated internal logic from the program or disrupting things for users who don't want that functionality.

Re: ARTISTSORT Tag field [#9064]

by InTheBath » Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:19 pm

Hi, thought I'd post my first post here.

I've been using MediaMonkey for a while and am loving its advanced reporting features especially.

However, I've got Artistsort tags all done and it's hard to find Bob Dylan under B not D. This is keeping me from moving more wholeheartedly to the program and also makes all the reports look wrong (to my eyes).
I also use Albumsort to get my albums in the right order (usually year related, but tweaked for compilations, anthologies etc). This is not such a deal breaker.

Do I need to vote on the wishlist, or is a message here my way of making my vote?

Love the program.

M.

ARTISTSORT Tag field [#9064]

by Beagslife » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:55 pm

Hi,

I already posted this as a new thread. I hadn't seen this one. I just want to add my voice. Thanks.
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I'm new here. I've recently converted to MM, after years of storing my music on SonicStage. I have found MM very useful, if a little daunting to begin with.

My biggest gripe so far, is with the options for sorting by artist/band name. I like to store all my music with the full name ie. The Waterboys, Tom Waits, An Emotional Fish, Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds etc. Using MM settings, I can sort the Waterboys under W (ignore the The). I can also use a script to change my names, to show surname first (Waits, Tom). However, I don't want to do that. I prefer to see the name Tom Waits but I would like to sort it under Waits. Similarly, I might want to sort An Emotional Fish under E.

SonicStage allowed me achieve this, simply by giving an option in the properties box for the album, to sort under a letter, number or character. So, even if I wanted to store Bruce Springsteen under B (for Boss), I could do it. I would hope that this feature could be built into MM in the near future.

Another feature of SonicStage which I miss, is the ability with Gracenote, to search and add all missing album info/artwork. It didn't always find everything but it was a help when dealing with a large db.

I hope the above is taken as constructive and I look forward to using MM for the lifetime I've signed up for!

Thanks again.

Beagslife

Sorting artists/bands by letter, number or character

by Beagslife » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:51 pm

Thanks. I did a search but couldn't find the other post.

Beagslife

Re: Sorting artists/bands by letter, number or character

by Lowlander » Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:50 pm

Sorting artists/bands by letter, number or character

by Beagslife » Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:45 pm

Hi,

I'm new here. I've recently converted to MM, after years of storing my music on SonicStage. I have found MM very useful, if a little daunting to begin with.

My biggest gripe so far, is with the options for sorting by artist/band name. I like to store all my music with the full name ie. The Waterboys, Tom Waits, An Emotional Fish, Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds etc. Using MM settings, I can sort the Waterboys under W (ignore the The). I can also use a script to change my names, to show surname first (Waits, Tom). However, I don't want to do that. I prefer to see the name Tom Waits but I would like to sort it under Waits. Similarly, I might want to sort An Emotional Fish under E.

SonicStage allowed me achieve this, simply by giving an option in the properties box for the album, to sort under a letter, number or character. So, even if I wanted to store Bruce Springsteen under B (for Boss), I could do it. I would hope that this feature could be built into MM in the near future.

Another feature of SonicStage which I miss, is the ability with Gracenote, to search and add all missing album info/artwork. It didn't always find everything but it was a help when dealing with a large db.

I hope the above is taken as constructive and I look forward to using MM for the lifetime I've signed up for!

Thanks in advance.

Beagslife

Re: ARTISTSORT Tag field [#9064]

by Buck » Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:30 pm

Who is awesome? Lowlander is awesome. Thanks for adding this to the wishlist database/thingy... :D

Burgess Meridith was wrong!! :wink:

Re: ARTISTSORT Tag field

by Lowlander » Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:26 pm


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