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Re: Podcast subscription problem

by Lowlander » Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:50 pm

Any changes will probably be made in MediaMonkey 4 which is in the works, but as a major update takes longer. Just do a search on Podcast here: http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view_all_bug_page.php and you'll see that many things have been worked on. Also MediaMonkey 4 will support video.

Re: Podcast subscription problem

by t3chnomanc3r » Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:37 pm

Being no traffic on this for months, I'd guess it's low to no priority. Honestly I have not hassled with MM recently on this front and have gone back to simply using it to tag & move files which is what I had bought it for. Lame design choice is all I can say.

Re: Podcast subscription problem

by dudedudedude » Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:54 pm

are there any updates on this issue?

I totally I agree, that MM shouldn't be a another Apple product ... MM is used by so many professionals, who know what they are doing ... also the extension of a file doesn't say anything about the content or potential danger ...

So is there any chance to include m4v or other formats in the podcast catcher?

Maybe a small hack for those who desperately want it ... e.g. adding some registry keys or updating some config files?

cheers

btw: MM is great!

Re: Podcast subscription problem

by Lowlander » Mon May 03, 2010 10:54 am

It happens that podcast feeds get misconfigured from time to time by the owner. Checking the feed contents is a good thing though as it can bring to light these issues.

Re: Podcast subscription problem

by Cirro » Mon May 03, 2010 9:19 am

yeah I was getting the same as you yesterday (ie no enclosures), and today I used the same url for the feed just to try again and low and behold I was downloading the latest episode. Thanks though

Re: Podcast subscription problem

by t3chnomanc3r » Mon May 03, 2010 1:39 am

This is not the thread for you my friend for that feed contains only links, no enclosures thus any podcatcher will download nothing. If you do not know enough to check the feed for enclosures you need to read up a bit on RSS & podcatching!

http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/rss/rss.ht ... OfLtitemgt

Code: Select all

<item>
	<title>Roger Sanchez presents Sexy Weapons vol 1</title>
	<description><![CDATA[Roger Sanchez made a fine selection of 5 joints which goes straight to  the core of sexiness. Introducing Sexy Weapons he brings pure dopeness which has Ibiza  written al over it. Sexy Weapons vol 1 includes tracks from Kid Massive ft Little Martinez,  Gabriel & Castellon, Danny Dove & Nathan C and [...]]]></description>
	<link>http://rogersanchez.com/2010/04/26/roger-sanchez-presents-sexy-weapons-vol-1/</link>
</item>
Cirro wrote:Having issues with one podcast Roger Sanchez - Release Yourself The files download as .m4a and there is no video at all in the podcast so I am unable understand the problem. It shows there is a podcast but doesnt show any episodes. Anyone with a little more knowledge then me care to try and help me out? I and my android despise iTunes and dont want to have to have it installed just for one podcast. Every other podcast (all just music .m4a files)I have works wonderfully. Please any help would be greatly appreciated. thank you

feed : http://rystealth.libsyn.com/rss

*edit ive also tried doubleTwist for all in one media management for my android device to no avail as they were stumped by the same problem :roll:

Re: Podcast subscription problem

by Cirro » Mon May 03, 2010 12:38 am

Having issues with one podcast Roger Sanchez - Release Yourself The files download as .m4a and there is no video at all in the podcast so I am unable understand the problem. It shows there is a podcast but doesnt show any episodes. Anyone with a little more knowledge then me care to try and help me out? I and my android despise iTunes and dont want to have to have it installed just for one podcast. Every other podcast (all just music .m4a files)I have works wonderfully. Please any help would be greatly appreciated. thank you

feed : http://rystealth.libsyn.com/rss

*edit ive also tried doubleTwist for all in one media management for my android device to no avail as they were stumped by the same problem :roll:

Re: Podcast subscription problem

by t3chnomanc3r » Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:40 pm

Well, this came in just as I was about to respond to the last post.

Keeping in mind there are many podcasts the add valued content to their feeds in addition the "multimedia" content, this is all the compromise *I* would be looking for (assume same for others) and had such an option existed never would I have been heard from. Default off makes sense as with any advanced feature, lack of configuration *is* the issue here not devs default limited choices. Personally I'm not a slave to a single app or GUI supporting every filetype I have. Obviously I see no issue with one app downloading all my feeds to a common folder tree and then manually utilizing that content from many apps. In the end it's not like the request is to be able to tag, catalog, or play unsupported filetypes in MM but if podcast adds a PDF for show notes, etc... I do want it downloaded!

Random fact: MM already does some touching of files it does not support when rename moves everything from a folder it offers to move unsupported content as well so it's not unheard of to touch files the user can't see in MM interface.

Lowlander wrote:I think the compromise solution would be an option to download unsupported formats that is disabled by default. Even better yet would be the ability to allow the user to select all enclosed files or let the user choose which file extension should be downloaded (I envision a textbox with ; delimited file extension entry).
This would allow power users to configure what get's downloaded, but not overwhelm new users as to why their PC is all of a sudden full.

I do still feel uneasy about it as it's strange a software is downloading files it can't handle at all, this means the user would need to hunt the downloaded files down using another software. This means that such user would be better served by a program that can both download and manage (as in make available to the user in the software itself, not necessarily do things like tagging or even opening the files) those files.

Re: Podcast subscription problem

by Lowlander » Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:11 pm

I think the compromise solution would be an option to download unsupported formats that is disabled by default. Even better yet would be the ability to allow the user to select all enclosed files or let the user choose which file extension should be downloaded (I envision a textbox with ; delimited file extension entry).
This would allow power users to configure what get's downloaded, but not overwhelm new users as to why their PC is all of a sudden full.

I do still feel uneasy about it as it's strange a software is downloading files it can't handle at all, this means the user would need to hunt the downloaded files down using another software. This means that such user would be better served by a program that can both download and manage (as in make available to the user in the software itself, not necessarily do things like tagging or even opening the files) those files.

Re: Podcast subscription problem

by Lowlander » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:23 am

Which are valid counter opinions to your request. MediaMonkey in the end needs to balance the needs of all its users and can't cater to any one individual. If its determined that implementing your and some others request wouldn't be beneficial to the program it shouldn't be implemented. That people have a differing opinion is no need to start insulting, its just how the process works.
t3chnomanc3r wrote:To date I've been through over 5 free podcatcher clients in as many years!
So it seems MediaMonkey isn't alone in being unable to download everything or handle this in a way that suits your specific needs.

Re: Podcast subscription problem

by t3chnomanc3r » Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:42 am

Because it's clear the kool-aid has been drank by a large number of you. All one has to do is re-read this thread to see the moronic responses about "not user friendly", "will support video in mm4", "can't be synced", "malware", etc... I feel like I'm over on in Mac land being dictated too as to why I am not worthy of a full implementation of something for fear it will break the user experience or add to the tech support nightmares meanwhile it's screwing more than a few of our "user experiences" and someone needs to be the "tech support nightmare" for NOT implementing it!
Lowlander wrote:Your request is valid, but why not add your support for this change in a nice way instead of belittling MediaMonkey's users, programmers and the program itself?

Re: Podcast subscription problem

by Lowlander » Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:23 pm

Your request is valid, but why not add your support for this change in a nice way instead of belittling MediaMonkey's users, programmers and the program itself?

Re: Podcast subscription problem

by t3chnomanc3r » Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:37 pm

Paranoid much? Don't open your web browser to read this!

Download != EXECUTE. For that matter allowing the user to control the whitelist/blacklist goes a long way to preventing unwanted types from downloading. Of course in this case you are advocating you be my protector and deciding to severely limit what I can download as if I am a naive child. Further these updates would only be "hidden" from those who don't open the folders in explorer which is a needed step to launch content not supported by the podcatcher to begin with and thus social engineering would also be needed to get a user to initiate a rogue process based on downloaded content. It also does not take into account that file extensions don't dictate content thus an .exe could be sent down as an MP3 right now.

The same dangers downloading any content poses everyday through web browsers, thus another moot point.


Refund this far out, not likely nor worth my effort. In fact makes more sense to be the squeaky wheel trying to make the invested funds to payoff. In the mean time it translates into no additional income for the product and non-endorsement from the disatisfied customer.
Peke wrote:@t3chnomanc3r
Depends on when you bought MM you can always try to get refund.

Ree overall complete download, I personally think it is security hole especially if SDK for such app exist. where you can make small app to add RSS to that app and than download malware (including updates that will be hidden) using RSS ghost proxy insertion method directly in XML file. The end result would be that you download new malware each time your feed gets updated without even knowing you do that as that app do not support format but still DL all files just in case. For me downloading non usable stuff for just downloading is simple said it is trash in my folders. But on other hand I understand your point of view that you want that some app do all if it is possible to do it no matter of reasons why currently it does not do it.

Re: Podcast subscription problem

by t3chnomanc3r » Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:09 pm

You know that insulting is the most common approach for customers who feel slighted by devs/fanbois belittling valid complaints?

Problem is not me, it's the software & mindset.

Lowlander wrote:
nohitter151 wrote:I'm sure your underhanded insults and sarcasm will shoot this right to the top of the to-do list.
You didn't know that being insulting is the best way to ask for something?

Re: Podcast subscription problem

by Peke » Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:45 pm

@Lowlander
You didn't know that when someone insult you, not only that you can sue him for harassment, but you get excuse for saying NO.

Luckily, everyone is entitled to his own opinion and rights to use/take/consume/... something or not to do that. Words "...AS IS..." tell much things especially in terms of EULA.

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